[cisco-voip] IMP External DB Doc (was Jabber 12.1.2 Released)

Wed Jan 2 09:10:22 EST 2019

I just ended up having to open a couple of TAC cases to have things clarified on that one since it wasn’t too clear.

The one that should have been in the doc was that the listed supported versions of database engines were sort of “these, and later” in that the doc wouldn’t list each new version as a qualifier per se , which is great yet at the same time if you chose to go down that road with MSSQL based on the bugs that are coming out it wouldn’t be fun.

There’s a whitepaper on external DB maintenance as well that is useful if you want to set up jobs and tasks to manage the database, truncate the data, etc.

I’ll give them that this wasn’t comprehensive documentation, but it is not a set-it-and-forget-it thing to setup the external DB for compliance/pChat/MFT. A lot of the documentation hand holds you pretty well if you’re not familiar with the technology , and I think this is one place to get yourself in trouble if you just “installed a database” and pointed your system at it, then begin to have performance problems at some point in the future. Teams is easier but 1) cloud and 2) has less controls/knobs/hooks at this point if you’re using those.

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To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
Cc: Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26 at buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Jabber 12.1(2) released

Yep, totally agree.  The external database integration and lack of documentation or support shows that they just want their customers to use Webex Teams for chat.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber 12.1(2) released

Ya know, that’s one thing I wish they would do. Keep better change documentation.

I was reading an IM&P external database doc, which hadn’t been updated in over a year. Went back, noticed it had been updated and nowhere, nowhere did it list changes. Normally I keep a copy of the PDF and then do a compare. But should we really have to do this?
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On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:38 PM, Patrick Robitaille <Patrick.Robitaille at aqr.com<mailto:Patrick.Robitaille at aqr.com>> wrote:
Agreed!  And with this release they haven’t even updated the release notes yet to indicate what changes are in this version.
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On Jan 1, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I’ve succumbed to the idea that we’ll never (truly) be privy to the thoughts and designs of how Cisco intends to deploy things. Even when we get a glimpse, it’s never written in stone and can change at a moments notice.

I’m not saying this to be critical, it’s just a matter of fact.

You really can’t plan on something unless it’s right there in front of you.

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On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26 at buffalo.edu<mailto:ajp26 at buffalo.edu>> wrote:
I swear I heard that the Jabber team was not going to be releasing more patch releases for Jabber once a new one was out. 12.5(0) is out and this release seemed to have squeaked out just the other day.

Am I misremembering?

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