[cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

Sun Jan 20 20:23:00 EST 2019

Does this sound a tad over engineered for an upgrade to anyone else, or is
it just me?

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 3:28 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

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> That sounds like exactly what I want to do!
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> Thx!
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> On Jan 19, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Dave Goodwin <dave.goodwin at december.net>
> wrote:
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> If you want to connect from the outside then rig up a virtual router such
> as a CSR that conndects to both the private and elastic side, establish a
> L2L VPN tunnel to the elastic IP, route the private IPs across the VPN.
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> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:31 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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>> Very interesting!
>>
>> Having private IPs on a secondary switch is great. But if I can’t
>> connect, then I can’t do full tests. We end up doing some mock migrations
>> and stuff. Also testing phones, etc.
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>> But hey, still worth a shot!
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>> *-sent from mobile device-*
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>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
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>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dave Goodwin <dave.goodwin at december.net>
>> wrote:
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>> If you want to bring your own IPs to AWS instances instead of using their
>> Elastic IPs, you can do that now from what I understand:
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>> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/10/announcing-the-general-availability-of-bring-your-own-ip-for-amazon-virtual-private-cloud/
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>> I don’t know if that functionality is compatible with VMC-AWS or not.
>> Also, I’d think just like Charles suggested that you could use your own IPs
>> on a private vSwitch or VM network.
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>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:04 PM Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Not sure, but let us know once you talk with your AWS / VMware sales
>>> team.
>>>
>>> If you need one, let me know and I'll put you in touch :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> I wonder if there are additional services you could subscribe to. Front
>>>> it with VPN/IP extension service so the vSwitch can be configured with any
>>>> VLAN that the extra layer offers.
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>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>>>> N1G 2W1
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>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:51 PM
>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins <mcollins at block.co.uk>;
>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned
>>>> from AWS.  At least for public facing.  I'm assuming you can spin up
>>>> another vswitch on the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we can
>>>> locally.
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>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best
>>>> replacement for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use.
>>>> As long as the IP address space was the same, you could simply shut them
>>>> down and export after the migration was complete.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Side question…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into
>>>> AWS without much effort?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> ---
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>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>>>> N1G 2W1
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>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins <mcollins at block.co.uk>;
>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>>>
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>>>> If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web
>>>> page where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let
>>>> you rent bare metal servers.
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>>>> VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.
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>>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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>>>> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent
>>>> out UCS systems for offline upgrades. :)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *-sent from mobile device-*
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>>>>
>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>
>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>
>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>>>> N1G 2W1
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>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
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>>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins <mcollins at block.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one
>>>> issue that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they
>>>> have been pretty smooth.
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>>>>
>>>> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and
>>>> UCCX replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication
>>>> status). Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it
>>>> kept failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the
>>>> command from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub
>>>> said it was failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about
>>>> from a host name change years back and some of the tables where not updated
>>>> on the sub.
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>>>>
>>>> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig
>>>> most of the OVA’s.
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>>>> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6
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>>>> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.
>>>>
>>>> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
>>>> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
>>>> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
>>>> IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins
>>>>
>>>> CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
>>>> CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
>>>> IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
>>>> IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>>>>
>>>> UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
>>>> UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
>>>> UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
>>>> UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
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>>>> Regards
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Collins
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *Lelio
>>>> Fulgenzi
>>>> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 16:37
>>>> *To:* SK <cciecollab2017 at gmail.com>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the
>>>> environment in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then
>>>> your migration will basically be downtime involved with shutting down old
>>>> servers and turning up new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of
>>>> the imagination. However, once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll
>>>> find this method extremely valuable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you
>>>> are satisfied.
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change
>>>> freeze window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lelio
>>>>
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>>>> ---
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>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>
>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>
>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>>>> N1G 2W1
>>>>
>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *
>>>> SK
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM
>>>> *To:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to
>>>> 11.5 soon  . UCCX will be on 11.6.2 mostly .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will appreciate any pointers on known bugs / challenges .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you .
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