[cisco-voip] How difficult is hybrid call (connector) setup ?

Evgeny Izetov eizetov at gmail.com
Tue Jul 2 23:01:59 EDT 2019


I would highly recommend watching this CiscoLive session: "Cisco Webex
Hybrid Services (formerly known as Spark Hybrid Services) Call Service
Connect Architecture and Design - BRKCOL-2202"

Luca does a great job explaining how it all works.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:39 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Ok. Thanks. That’s putting things into perspective now.
>
> I’ve got a budget request in for additional compute resources. This now
> puts a solid reason behind it.
>
> And I agree. There really should be an easy way to split and isolate the
> communications paths on the same cluster.
>
> I don’t look forward to managing an additional four servers.
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> On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
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> It all comes down to what you are using your Expressways for. In a Webex
> Hybrid call connect scenario you could in theory, have calls with source
> uri’s using your domain, which in a pure B2B scenario is usually something
> you’d deny with a call policy.
>
> As I understand it, the dedicated Expressway recommendation (outside of
> pure capacity reasons) is to make it easier to write call policies that
> don’t interfere with other use cases since Expressway doesn’t really have a
> partitioning mechanism (outside of what you can do with search rules).
>
> You really have to go to the Ninja master level with your regular
> expressions in your search rules and call polices to get multiple use cases
> setup and using call policies to reduce toll fraud... and have everything
> work.
>
> ... and this is where Cisco should, in my opinion, step up to the plate a
> little. The best answer really shouldn’t be, “just deploy and use another
> Expressway”.
>
> Yes, that is easier than refining CPL and search rules, but many customers
> run tight compute/storage budgets (Ex. be6k) and cant always spin up more
> Expressways.
>
> -R
>
> On Jul 2, 2019, at 22:06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> Ok. Thanks.
>
> I think we’re on a low version of expressway. I’ll have to confirm.
>
> My memory is failing, and I can’t find it in my notes, but in one session
> they talked about using a separate pair of C’s and E’s or have a high risk
> of toll fraud.
>
> I believe it was in my Sunday techtorial. I’ll have to reach out to them.
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> On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
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> It’s not that bad (maybe 1 - 2 hours to get a functional test going).
>
> The most unexpected thing I think you may run into is the use/need for
> MTLS (TCP:5062) between the Edge and Control Hub. Also, your Expressway
> version should be 12.5.x (I think 8.11.4 may still work but you’ll get an
> alarm telling you to upgrade if it does work).
>
> Outside of that, it’s a splash of nerd knob turning in the control hub,
> some search rule / traversal & dns zone magic in Expressway C/E and setting
> up the management/call connector in Expressway, you can even re-use a MRA
> (unified communications) traversal client/server (or create a dedicated
> traversal if so inclined).
>
> Here is the guide you’d want to follow for it and it’s pretty complete and
> well written:
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cloudCollaboration/spark/hybridservices/callservices/cmgt_b_ciscospark-hybrid-call-service-config-guide.html
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> Thanks,
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> Ryan
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> On Jul 2, 2019, at 21:30, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> On a scale from 1 to 10, how difficult and/or time consuming is it to
> setup call hybrid connector with WebEx?
>
> I’m just about convinced that I’d rather register our room devices and
> SX20s to the cloud. But people would like to be able to dial extensions and
> PSTN numbers. Being able to use our audio bridges would also be of benefit
> (ya, I understand the irony of that).
>
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