[cisco-voip] PUT Tool Bootables - what version?

Charles Goldsmith wokka at justfamily.org
Wed May 15 18:14:27 EDT 2019


Agree 100%, but you'd have a hard time proving that's the only thing you
changed about that iso if TAC wanted to push it.  For my customers, I just
don't chance it.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:45 PM Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:

> The checksum is written to the OS. I’ve heard tell from the old country of
> a TAC agent using it as a way out of an otherwise entitled case.
>
> If you inject a boot table from a RedHat image into a Redhat image, there
> isn’t any functional difference.
>
> I would not inject a boot table from a RedHat into a CentOS based image
> though  ;).
>
> -Ryan
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 17:26, Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org> wrote:
>
> I don't know how true this is, but years ago I was told that when you do
> an install, that the md5sum of the iso is written out in the install, so
> that TAC can tell if it's a legit image that is used to do the
> installation.
>
> However, at least once on a TAC supplied iso that I've gotten a failure on
> the "check installation media" portion of the install.  When I asked TAC
> about it, they told me to ignore and proceed with the install.  My guess is
> that the particular ISO I had didn't have the correct md5 on it.
>
> Others have installed just fine that I've received from them.
>
> Take that for what it's worth.
>
> Btw, you don't need to use Ultra ISO to make an iso bootable, linux tools
> can do the same thing.  Doesn't cost an Ultra ISO license and you don't
> have to download the ISO to your desktop and then upload it.  Not always
> feasible when doing things remotely.  Not that I've ever made an ISO for a
> customer, just saying :)
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:01 PM Evgeny Izetov <eizetov at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if TAC also gave up - UltraISO'd it themselves and forgot to add
>> Bootable_ :-)
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>
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>>> On May 15, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not.  And just in case they changed things, I went and downloaded
>>> the latest 12.0 and 12.5 of both CUCM and CUC and none of them have the
>>> bootable part of the ISO.
>>>
>>> Simply renaming a file doesn't make it bootable :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:36 PM Anthony Holloway <
>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That.  Can't.  Be.  True.  Right?  If so, Brian Meade has been wasting
>>>> his time with UltraISO.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:26 PM Evgeny Izetov <eizetov at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's good to know. Was it 12.x or 11.x?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:19 PM Haas, Neal <nhaas at fresnocountyca.gov>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a TAC Call last week, they told me to add BOOTABLE to the name
>>>>>> (in front) and that was it. They said all ISO’s are now bootable with the
>>>>>> name change…..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Evgeny Izetov
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:17 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] PUT Tool Bootables - what version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, CUPS has always been bootable.. CUCM/CUC/CER are still not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what is the proper way to obtaining bootable iso's now? Let's say
>>>>>> a CUCM 11.5 SU6 needs to be reinstalled, and there's no bootable because it
>>>>>> was upgraded from an earlier SU. PUT does not have bootable SU6 and neither
>>>>>> does Enterprise Agreement. Is TAC the only way to get the bootable for a
>>>>>> specific SU? I believe there used to be a time when everyone was advised
>>>>>> that TAC is not able to provide bootables?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:18 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same with CUPS if I’m not mistaken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Charles Goldsmith
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:09 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Evgeny Izetov <eizetov at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] PUT Tool Bootables - what version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, UCCX is shipping bootables (filename doesn't reflect it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UCCX 12.0(1) image for fresh install and upgrades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UCSInstall_UCCX_12_0_1_UCOS_12.0.1.10000-24.sgn.iso
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:04 AM Evgeny Izetov <eizetov at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wasn't their excuse with not providing bootables that it was based on
>>>>>> Red Hat? It's CentOS now, and still a struggle..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:52 AM Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've given up on trying to get bootables.  I haven't had any issues
>>>>>> with ones made with UltraISO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering what the Put Tool Bootables are at now? We're planning
>>>>>> on upgrading to v11.5.1 SU6 due to the field notice and I'd like to have
>>>>>> the bootable available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise it's opening a case with the TAC, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it just a matter of submit request and check the filename?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lelio
>>>>>>
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