[cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings

Thu Nov 14 07:51:53 EST 2019

I don't know if that whole mess is necessary to join a Zoom call. If the party who sent you the Zoom invite has the connector service for interop, you can usually call the meeting by <meetingnumber>@zoomcrc.com as  SIP call. If they don't, it prompts you to sign in on an app with your account (which is paying for a connector license I guess) and then you can join the meeting that way. 

In my experience with that, I've yet to come across a Zoom meeting I've been invited to where someone has the connector on their account, and we don't pay for one. In that case the Room Kit ends up being largely useless. Yes you can share in a PC but then making use of the camera is expensive.

And before anyone waves in with "Room Kit Mini", the framing on that is meant for some very limited room sizes and is not suitable to the type of space you'd be installing a proper codec to anyways. 

All of these disparate services work best if you can coax the other participant(s) into playing in your house with your services. 

We've unfortunately decided not to pursue the Webex systems given this, and have instead gone with external cameras and microphones that we can present to a PC as a USB device. Not for everyone and doesn't fit all cases.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of James
> Andrewartha
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:43 PM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> 
> Zoom do sell a connector for Cisco room systems, but I don't know how well it
> works for joining third-party zoom meetings. The setup instructions are quite
> involved https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115003126346-Zoom-
> Connector-for-Cisco
> 
> I've just put in a Logitech Tap Microsoft Teams Room system and the
> announced compatibility with Webex and Zoom makes me happy we went with
> them. Someone noted there's been no public agreement between Webex and
> Zoom, only between them and MS Teams.
> 
> --
> James Andrewartha
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> Christ Church Grammar School
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> 
> On 14/11/19 7:13 am, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> >
> > The question is whether or not the Zoom devices can dial other systems.
> >
> > If you're getting Zoom across the board, that's fine. But if you can't
> participate with other systems, then you've further pigeon hole'd yourself.
> >
> > If that makes sense.
> >
> > The fact that Webex/Microsoft signed a deal is even more weight for Webex
> devices.
> >
> > But I hear what you're saying. If your zoom, hard to say buy webex. ☹
> >
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> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:52 PM
> > To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> > Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > Subject: Re: Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> >
> > Thanks for the insight. I will try with the cloud device to test this out and see if
> i can convince the powers that be. Otherwise we may be going full Zoom which
> I’m not adverse to, but would be very unfamiliar territories.
> >
> >> On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> I've not had any production experience, only testing.
> >>
> >> From a cloud registered endpoint perspective, you'll likely be using the
> "Call" button and have to enter the video address of the meeting. You shouldn't
> have any issues.
> >>
> >> What I don't like is the fact that forwarded meeting invites do not appear on
> the screen and/or show up with a join button.
> >>
> >> Scenario: Your org is exclusively Webex, but your vendor sends you a Zoom
> invite. They can't book your room. You need to book it yourself. The easiest way
> is to setup your O365 to allow rooms to auto-accept forwarded invites (and
> include all meeting notes). However, the meeting information never shows up
> on the device. I have tried replicating the meeting information via copy and
> paste and I believe that works (now I can't remember). My beef was that even
> forwarded Webex invites don't work!
> >>
> >> I'm hoping they resolve that soon.
> >>
> >> You could also consider writing an applet/macro for the device for Zoom,
> etc that asks for a meeting number and tags the domain.
> >>
> >> The other thing is, if the far end supports video endpoints, they typically
> support call back as well.
> >>
> >> The other other thing is, if you download the far end's mobile app, you
> should be able to click on the meeting in your mobile calendar, it launch the
> mobile app, and that should have a "call my video device" option.
> >>
> >> All things worth trying...
> >>
> >> Let us know how you make out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
> >>
> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of
> >> Myron Young
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:24 PM
> >> To: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> >> Subject: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Anyone has any good experience in joining non-Webex meetings from the
> Cisco roomkit devices? Trying to deploy a standard for conference rooms with
> roomkit devices and touch 10 but need to make sure user experience is easy or
> similar when joining Webex meetings vs non-webex meetings such as Zoom,
> Blue Jeans or Microsoft meetings.
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