[cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Tue Sep 17 16:07:40 EDT 2019

So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?  Or
that it wasn't manufactured in China?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl> wrote:

> Non-China to be more accurate
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl>
> napisał:
>>
>> NC = No China
>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> napisał:
>>>
>>> I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think
>>> it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a
>>> piece of Ikea furniture.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <
>>> james.buchanan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> With much searching, this site:
>>>> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC"
>>>> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I
>>>> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it
>>>> would explain why it's more expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam < ajp26 at buffalo.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are
>>>>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same
>>>>> appearance everywhere?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
>>>>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of
>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>>>>> *To:* Hunter Fuller <hf0002 at uah.edu>
>>>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
>>>>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From the brochure:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably more.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
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>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Hunter Fuller <hf0002 at uah.edu>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>; Norton, Mike <
>>>>> mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case
>>>>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>>
>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't
>>>>> find it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
>>>>> phones that normally have a camera?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
>>>>> Phone.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>>
>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>
>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON
>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>
>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of
>>>>> *Charles Goldsmith
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
>>>>> *To:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>
>>>>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I was way off...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the
>>>>> NR version, which is no radio anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and*
>>>>> strong crypto"????
>>>>>
>>>>> -mn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Charles Goldsmith
>>>>> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
>>>>> To: Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>
>>>>> Export purposes
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no
>>>>> crypto phone?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> AH. Gotcha.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---
>>>>> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>>>>> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>>>>> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>>>> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> From: Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>>>>> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
>>>>> >> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> No crypto
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC
>>>>> version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ---
>>>>> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>>>>> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science &
>>>>> Nutrition
>>>>> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>>>> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
>>>>> >>> lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> >>>
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