[cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing

Matthew Loraditch MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com
Mon May 11 22:14:54 EDT 2020


I don’t know anything about EAs, don’t have anyone big enough to sell them to.


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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing

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After all that I want to ask...

Is UCCx included in EA yet? Or still separate.


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A port is a port.

Chat/Email and Advanced Outbound Campaigns (predictive/progressive dialing) require Flex Premium so agents doing those functions would need premium.




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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing

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Why did they have to borrow the same names for the licensing levels?  It's like when Cisco decided to call UCCX CAD+Finesse Mixed mode, while on CUCM mixed mode already meant secure communications.  Anyway.

Ok, so, a port is a port in Flex?  There is no concept of a premium port or a standard port then?  Any kind of inbound port can do any kind of feature?  The only licensing levels are for Agent/Supervisor capabilities?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:07 PM Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>> wrote:
You need to dissociate flex std/prem from L-CCX std/pre. Every feature on flex is the equivalent of the L-CCX premium level from a capabilities standpoint.

Does that make sense?

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing

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My man!  Always coming through!  So, the Supervisor one is true but the admin one is bogus, right?  I mean, about the Premium requirement for each.

So, what is still confusing to me is, in the past, the Premium seat also got you 2 premium IVR ports.  Does a standard flex seat get you 2 standard ivr ports?  Thus, a mized std/pre felx deal is going to net you a mixed std/pre port solution?  How does that work?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:36 PM Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>> wrote:

A-FLEX-CC has Standard and Premium Licenses.



These are different from non flex licensing.



Standard is inbound agent licensing essentially



Premium is supervisor licensing,   email/chat agents, outbound campaign licensing.



2 CTI ports per agent/license.



Admin still works no specific license needed as long as admin isn’t also supervisor/agent, HA is included, outside of the 3 features above, it’s like perpetual premium with SQL, etc included.



See here for specifics:



https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-741220.html Table 8.





License enforcement is only in UCCX 12.5. Older versions don’t know and you end up with Perpetual Premium with HA feature set but with a license that expires at the end of your contract term.



Suffice it to say if you don’t need 12.5 features you could ride the gravy train for a while.



Licensing is still concurrent users.



There are grace periods so if you need to test something you can make the admin a supervisor or something w/o breakage, just remember to remove later.



If your customer has on-prem premium, with perpetual trade-in credits you are close to the cost of SWSS and should probably try and get them to move.







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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing



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But seriously, a premium license to administer the system?  Does this include the appadministrator account too?  Do you have first hand experience with it?



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:16 PM Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26 at buffalo.edu<mailto:ajp26 at buffalo.edu>> wrote:

This was the information I heard as well, and the purchase quantities are based on feature utilization and concurrency.







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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing



Pretty sure when buying as A-Flex-CC that it always just gives you Premium licensing on the CCX side.  Had this cause an issue with a customer that was staying on Enhanced for the extra CTI ports for many years.



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:23 PM Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com<mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip at gmail.com>> wrote:

All,



Anyone already deal with this themselves?  I am reading/being told something I cannot swallow as the truth, because it seems so ridiculous.



I am being told that you need a Premium license to even login as a Supervisor at all.  Like, not for extra functionality (silent monitoring), but just as a basic license requirement to even sign in.



Also, I am being told a Premium license is required for Administrative users too.  Like, even the app admin account.  So what, completing a fresh install now requires a Premium license?



Are either of these true?  Can you confirm from your own tests that this is in fact how Flex works in UCCX on-prem?

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