[cisco-voip] Migration from CUCM/UCXN/UCCX 8.5 to 12.5

Thu May 28 15:09:30 EDT 2020

I see it, and I see that it's not 100% clear. However, if you listen to the
presentation recording for this section, Brandon does mention the lengthy
process for multi-step upgrades, and how PCD solves that, though, either
are valid.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:07 PM Matthew Loraditch <
MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:

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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:51 PM
> *To:* Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migration from CUCM/UCXN/UCCX 8.5 to 12.5
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> Which slide says you can go direct with osadmin?
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> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 1:41 PM Matthew Loraditch <
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> Interesting thing is this preso (which is not official for TAC Purposes)
> says I can go from 8.6 to 12.5 directly in OS admin, but docs say use PCD.
> Not going to try it, but nevertheless curious.
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:29 PM
> *To:* Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migration from CUCM/UCXN/UCCX 8.5 to 12.5
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> Another thing, CUCM 12.5 specific, Cisco wants all of us to run through
> the Collaboration Sizing Tool every time we upgrade to 12.5 now.
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> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 1:08 PM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Keep in mind that PCD network migrations, while awesome for CUCM, do not
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> Typically with a project like this, you'll likely have a different
> approach for each app, and not a one size fits all solution.
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> With the app upgrades, you will also have to change OVA sizes (or want to
> in some cases), and at that point, it might be better to install fresh, and
> use tools like COBRAS, BAT, AXL, ADMIN API, stare & compare, etc. to get
> data exported/imported from old to new.
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> Or like Kent said, tell yourself it's a toshiba system, and treat it like
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> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 11:26 AM Matthew Loraditch <
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> Here’s a fun one. We have taken over support of these ancient servers
> hosted on Esxi 4.1 on UCS-C200-M2s!
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> 8.5 SU2 for CUCM/UCXN
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> Have new M5s and flex licensing… need to get to 12.5..  8.5 docs are dead
> for CUCM/UCXN and 8 and 9 docs are dead for UCCX. ISOs I may need are not
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> Also fun wrinkle the new host are across the WAN and for many logistical
> reasons are staying there. The migration to the new hosts will have to be
> via DRS or maybe PCD somehow? Not sure if the bandwidth available to get
> data across will be fast enough to finish in the allotted time period. My
> plan was a change freeze window and copy/restore the backups and then
> activate the new servers and move the subnet to the new location.
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> As best I can tell I need to get UCCX to SU4 of 8.5.1 then I can go to
> 10.6 SU3 and then to 12x (with the fun of two CAD upgrades and then a
> migration to Finesse!)
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> For CUCM/UCXN I need to go to 8.6 anything and then I can go to 11.5 and
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> I think my plan is to do the upgrades to the interim versions on the old
> hosts then migrate to the new and then finish the upgrades. The old hosts
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> Anyone have thoughts on what they would do here? This is partially
> depending on TAC being able to provide me the ISOs I will need, but I
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> In theory some sort of PCD migration is also an option, but I’ve never
> done one and not sure how it could handle the subnet situation that will
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