[cisco-voip] [EXTERNAL] Re: Cost-Effective Public Certificate Authority for CUCM certificates

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Fri Feb 18 13:24:40 EST 2022


I’ve been thinking about going via ACME for expressway. But I think we will try one more time using CCUC tools, which are supposed to be pretty good.

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On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Nick Russo <russon81 at yahoo.com> wrote:



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Unfortunately, Cisco doesn't allow for * certs with the UC platform.  If this is for Jabber MRA, they recently added support for ACME certificates, but I haven't used that.  The cheapest CA signed certs I've been able to find is ssls.com and the full set of certs for a typical cluster is going to set you back about $900 a year.  They have a couple of Collaboration packages that you can use for the multiple domains.  Also, they work well enough, but the support for ssls.com is pretty weak, so plan on at least a week to get your certs ordered, approved, and installed.

On Friday, February 18, 2022, 09:39:50 AM PST, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:


We use Entrust. But I think we had some sort of "Contract" that allowed for a specific number of certs to be issued, all on the credit system. Regardless of SANs.

But, you're right. Cisco collab is an expensive solution to provide certs for.

I'm really hoping that https://www.incommon.org/certificates/subscribe/ opens up to EDUs outside of the U.S. some time (soon).

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Digicert have killed the fact you could issue a cert for host.sub.example.com on your *.example.com wildcard, instead they want to charge you extra for those hosts so now I'm shopping around. The good news is there's now other places that will do wildcards with unlimited reissues (which most call "unlimited server licenses").

I tried Comodo/Sectigo Positive Multi Domain Wildcard SSL which can even have multiple wildcards on the one certificate, but it only accepts CSRs for *.example.com, which UCM/UC/IM&P won't generate. But perhaps that's a limitation of the reseller I used. They also have the Comodo/Sectigo Multi Domain SSL Certificate (FLEX) which lets you have host SANs, but will charge you for each one.

Anyone had success with any other CAs recently?

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On 31/3/20 04:49, Brian Meade wrote:
> In this case, we're doing public certificates internally as well for
> CUCM Tomcat, Unity Connection Tomcat, UCCX Tomcat, and IM&P CUP-XMPP.
>
> Adding the multiple presence domains is pretty easy on the IM&P side
> and it will automatically add SAN's for those domains in the CSR.
>
> Expressway-E will also automatically add all domains to the CSR.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:07 PM Jonatan Quezada
> <jonatan.quezada at chemeketa.edu<mailto:jonatan.quezada at chemeketa.edu> <mailto:jonatan.quezada at chemeketa.edu<mailto:jonatan.quezada at chemeketa.edu>>>
> wrote:
>
>    Brian, How challenging was it to do the jabber on all three domains?
>
>    Where do you need the multiDomain cert, on the VCS-edge connector
>    right? Im looking to see what it would take to get this going for
>    our remote workers even though it seems
>    like there are few things to make sure are in place first.
>
>    for so far its the :
>
>    certs for dual domain- how
>    provision jabber users
>
>
>    On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:28 PM Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu<mailto:bmeade90 at vt.edu>
>    <mailto:bmeade90 at vt.edu<mailto:bmeade90 at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>
>        I was originally going to go with that wildcard option but this
>        customer has 3 different presence domains to match their email
>        domains which makes the CUP-XMPP cert more complicated.
>
>        This is my personal email so no access to InCommon certificates
>        unfortunately.
>
>        On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:59 PM Matthew Ballard
>        <mballard at otis.edu<mailto:mballard at otis.edu> <mailto:mballard at otis.edu<mailto:mballard at otis.edu>>> wrote:
>
>            We used to use DigiCert Wildcard which offers that (where
>            you can issue multiple certificates with different private
>            keys from the same wildcard cert/purchase).____
>
>            __ __
>
>            We switched to using InCommon certificates, which it looks
>            like your University also subscribes to.  You should be able
>            to get them internally from whomever licensed that there, as
>            it’s a flat fee service for unlimited certificates.____
>
>            __ __
>
>            Matthew Ballard____
>
>            Director of Technology Infrastructure____
>
>            Information Systems____
>
>            Otis College of Art and Design____
>
>            mballard at otis.edu<mailto:mballard at otis.edu> <mailto:mballard at otis.edu<mailto:mballard at otis.edu>>____
>
>            __ __
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>            __ __
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>            *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Cost-Effective Public Certificate
>            Authority for CUCM certificates____
>
>            __ __
>
>            Does anyone know of any public certificate authorities that
>            have cheaper multi-server SAN certificate options?  I had
>            seen some in the past that let you buy a wildcard and then
>            can submit CSR's against that still but having trouble
>            finding that now.____
>
>            __ __
>
>            Trying to avoid buying 4 multi-server certificates to cover
>            CUCM Tomcat/Unity Connection Tomcat/UCCX Tomcat/IM&P
> XMPP.____
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