[cisco-voip] Question about RISDB queries and ATA devices?

Thu May 25 14:26:36 EDT 2023

Sorry, sent before being ready...

What I was hoping for was a list of all the registered active ATAs that
would INCLUDE the DN on them.
As it is -- if I simply use the admin website, as you said, I can get a
list of all the devices that are registered.

I've actually got the individual ATAs downloaded that way, and sorted by
"Registered" in a Google Sheet.

I cannot easily also match those up with the DNs.
I suppose one could probably then write some sort of SQL command that would
specify a long-ish list of ATA device names to query for DN.

It may be time to just ask an Intern to click on each ATA that's registered
and collect the DN and description.

I thought about asking one of our DB people to do that --
But they'd want a project set up, and require a complete list of the table
schema, the IP/TCP port and data connection, etc
to do things as they're used to, with a direct SQL connection to query
against.
They're not used to having to operate the way Cisco does with CLI only
access to SQL in a limited fashion.
And I get why Cisco does that... not arguing that point.

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 2:18 PM Tim Reimers <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>
wrote:

> Nate, I may have to do that.
>
> I just thought I was crazy that ATAs don't show up in
> show risdb query phone
>
> T
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 2:08 PM <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the goal?  I usually get what I want from device/phone, copy it
>> all into the clipboard and paste without formatting into excel and continue
>> on.  In older versions of CUCM you can change the rows per page, then edit
>> the URL to make rows per page all of the devices on the system up to many
>> thousands.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *Ryan
>> Ratliff (rratliff)
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2023 10:46 AM
>> *To:* Tim Reimers <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>; Wes Sisk (wsisk) <
>> wsisk at cisco.com>
>> *Cc:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Question about RISDB queries and ATA devices?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not surprised the “phone” filter only shows you SEP devices. I was
>> expecting RTMT to give you a friendlier way to browse around and find the
>> ATAs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do any of the other risdb CLI filters give you those devices?
>>
>> Interrogating the API directly is another option.
>>
>> https://developer.cisco.com/docs/sxml/#!risport70-api-reference/selectcmdevice
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of Tim
>> Reimers <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>
>> *Date: *Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 12:06 PM
>> *To: *Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
>> *Cc: *cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] Question about RISDB queries and ATA devices?
>>
>> Hi Wes, Ryan, all
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not seeing any of the registered ATAs showing up in RTMT under a
>> Device Search either -- only SEP devices.
>>
>>
>>
>> I gather that you are all expecting that 'show risdb query phone' as well
>> as RTMT should be showing the ATAs registered and counted alongside the SEP
>> devices
>>
>> so long as the ATAs are running in SCCP mode and not something else...
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 10:17 AM Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, registration information is in RIS not in SQL(informix). I see some
>> other mentions of this, but not clear resolution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that ATA may follow different CM server resolution and 'show risdb'
>> is per-node. Aka, have you checked all nodes with CM service activated
>> where ATAs might be registered?
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, and ATAs could be h.323 for a while, so are they registering as SCCP?
>>
>>
>>
>> -w
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Tim Reimers <treimers at ashevillenc.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all -
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to find the ACTIVELY REGISTERED devices on my UCM 9.1 system.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to find the list of actively registered ATA 186 devices and their
>> DNs.
>>
>>
>>
>> * I'm using "show risdb query phones" command, as documented here among
>> other sites
>>
>>
>> https://getpractical.co.uk/2021/10/11/cisco-cucm-reports-from-sql-show-risdb/
>>
>>
>>
>> That seems to show only the SEPxxxxyyyyzzz devices, aka my 79XX SCCP
>> phones.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't see any ATAxxxxyyyyzzzz devices being returned.
>>
>> Are they not in the "phone" table of the RISDB?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> * my understanding is that any variation on the "run sql select" is
>>
>> simply querying the Oracle? database for _configured_ devices only, and
>> isn't looking
>>
>> at the memory table of the Callmanager process to see the _currently
>> registered_ devices.
>>
>> (I've seen a number of other forum posts where people suggested "run sql"
>> commands to gather info, but that is statically configured, not
>> necessarily "registered", so that does not seem appropriate for the info I
>> want).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Tim Reimers
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> I.T Services
>>
>> City of Asheville
>>
>> treimers at ashevillenc.gov
>>
>> (desk) 828-259-5512
>>
>> (cell)   828-552-1585
>>
>> "That’s no ordinary rabbit  packet! That’s the most foul, cruel, and bad
>> tempered badly framed packet you ever set eyes on. Listen, that packet’s
>> got a vicious streak a mile wide, he’s a killer.He’s got huge sharp
>> MTU…eh, he can leap about and cross Vlans…. I warned you, I warned you but
>> did you listen? No… ohhh no, it’s just a harmless little packet on the
>> network, isn’t it now...."
>>
>
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> --
>
> *Quis custodiet
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> * nexus*
>
> Tim Reimers
>
> Network Administrator
>
> I.T Services
>
> City of Asheville
>
> treimers at ashevillenc.gov
>
> (desk) 828-259-5512
>
> (cell)   828-552-1585
>
> "That’s no ordinary rabbit  packet! That’s the most foul, cruel, and bad
> tempered badly framed packet you ever set eyes on. Listen, that packet’s
> got a vicious streak a mile wide, he’s a killer.He’s got huge sharp
> MTU…eh, he can leap about and cross Vlans…. I warned you, I warned you
> but did you listen? No… ohhh no, it’s just a harmless little packet on
> the network, isn’t it now...."
>

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(cell)   828-552-1585

"That’s no ordinary rabbit  packet! That’s the most foul, cruel, and bad
tempered badly framed packet you ever set eyes on. Listen, that packet’s
got a vicious streak a mile wide, he’s a killer.He’s got huge sharp MTU…eh,
he can leap about and cross Vlans…. I warned you, I warned you but did you
listen? No… ohhh no, it’s just a harmless little packet on the network,
isn’t it now...."
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