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<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
is not currently possible because of the incremental updates performed by ES's,
SR's, and even the maintenance releases. The underlying database for a
3.3(3) backup is very different from the underlying database for a 3.3(4)
system.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thus,
by allowing incremental updates for new features, we cannot allow the
simple 1 step restore. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Keep
an ear out for a possible linux port of CCM that may include an active/backup
partition setup that allows immediate recovery.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879440021-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>/Wes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Carter, Bill
[mailto:WCarter@sentinel.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:15
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Wes Sisk; versatile@direct-support.com;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager
Backup using Windows 2000 Backup<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=2>Any future plans to change the backup options for Call Manager to
provide a single of couple step process instead of manual restore of OS, CCM
then CCM Backup utility restore?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
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<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Wes Sisk [<A
href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">mailto:wsisk@cisco.com</A>]<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:14
PM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>
versatile@direct-support.com; Carter, Bill;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Backup
using Windows 2000 Backup</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Keep
in mind that if it's a cluster SQL replication and DCD
replication will be broken after a ghost restore. ghost
backup/restore is not really supported by Cisco, but it has worked well in
the field.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN> </P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>/Wes</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> J A Pine [<A
href="mailto:versatile@direct-support.com">mailto:versatile@direct-support.com</A>]<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:25
PM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> 'Wes Sisk';
'Carter, Bill'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Backup
using Windows 2000 Backup</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>One
of the engineers here has tried to recover from a backup, and has been
unsuccessful to this day. He has tried 3 times and the
configuration has never come up the same. I've never tried it
myself, and am somewhat hesitant to try after hearing this. I
would go with the Ghost image like Wes
reccomended.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN> </P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jesse</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P><BR>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>]</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2>On
Behalf Of</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Wes Sisk<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:13
AM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Carter, Bill;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Backup
using Windows 2000 Backup</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ghost
to a backup IDE drive is your friend.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>]</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>On
Behalf Of</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Carter, Bill<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:05
PM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> [cisco-voip] CallManager Backup using
Windows 2000 Backup</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Has
anyone tried using the Windows 2000 Backup utility on Call Manager.
I am planning a Call Manager upgrade and I am looking for a faster
"recover" method if the upgrade fails. The environment is a single
CallManager MCS-7825 with out a RAID drive to pull before the
upgrade.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN> </P>
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