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<DIV><FONT size=2>oh will the madness never end.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>we're knee deep into testing 7.1.1</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>not even a note on the download section. think they're gonna
replace it with 7.1.1.1 which I see referenced in the bug notes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tfrazee@gsgi.com href="mailto:tfrazee@gsgi.com">Tim Frazee</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=MHering@thegalecompany.com
href="mailto:MHering@thegalecompany.com">MHering@thegalecompany.com</A> ; <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>
; <A title=simon@jettis.com
href="mailto:simon@jettis.com">simon@jettis.com</A> ; <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 24, 2005 2:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Advice on CCM3
to CCM4 Migration please</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Anybody notice that they pulled the 7.1.1 7940/60 phone
loads?<BR><BR>We loaded them on about 150 phones and had many problems when
the phone accessed the tsp driver with unity the phone would lock up. An
upgrade of the tsp driver on the unity server but we pulled the load off all
the phones and downgraded the phones to older 6.0.? Something.<BR><BR>After
opening a case with tac, they had told us that it was going to get pulled off
CCO.<BR>Blackberry Wireless E-Mail From:<BR>Tim Frazee<BR>Global Solutions
Group, Inc.<BR>636.680.1065 - office<BR>636.343.8008 -
fax<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>
<<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>To:
Lelio Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>; Simon
Hamilton-Wilkes <<A
href="mailto:simon@jettis.com">simon@jettis.com</A>>; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Mon Jan 24 13:46:08 2005<BR>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Advice on CCM3 to CCM4
Migration please<BR><BR>Ditto, cept we go for 90 days...(Far too many of us
remember NT4.0 Sp6 (and then 6a :) )<BR> <BR><M><BR><BR>
_____ <BR><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:27 PM<BR>To: Simon
Hamilton-Wilkes; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] Advice on CCM3 to CCM4 Migration please<BR><BR><BR>We have an
unwritten rule that we won't run/install anything unless it's been out for 30
days. Far too many last minute software pulls and service
releases.<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: Simon <<A
href="mailto:simon@jettis.com">mailto:simon@jettis.com</A>> Hamilton-Wilkes
<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
<BR>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:19 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Advice
on CCM3 to CCM4 Migration please<BR><BR>While we're on this topic, I notice
3.3.5 has been posted. Does this affect CCM 4.1 migration in any
way?<BR><BR> _____ <BR><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:08 AM<BR>To: chris donnelly; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] Advice on CCM3 to CCM4 Migration please<BR><BR><BR>It is my
hope that I will be able to do something similar when testing out new versions
of Call Manager, basically mimicing all route patterns etc on the new server
and have a few phones testing things live and interacting with the production
service.<BR> <BR>However, I think it's quite an ordeal to migrate things
piece meal. Test as much as you can, then upgrade the cluster. Be sure to have
plenty of outs, i.e. backup and mirrored disks. We have new hardware and will
be building the new publisher exactly as you mentioned. If you don't have new
hardware, you should be able to take your publisher off-line during the
upgrade and then plug it back in when you are done. Obviously database changes
can't happen during that time and will affect things like call
forwarding.<BR> <BR>I think we have to begin letting our clients know
that we have to upgrade and there will be changes seen. Many we will be able
to document, but many may slip by our fingers because of lack of change
documentation (sorry Cisco).<BR> <BR>For your notes, you will have to do
a two stage upgrade, from 3.3(3) -> 3.3(4) or 4.0(x) -> 4.1(2). We are
choosing to go to 3.3(4) as our interim step.<BR><BR>----- Original Message
----- <BR>From: chris donnelly <<A
href="mailto:c.donnelly@skynetsystems.co.uk">mailto:c.donnelly@skynetsystems.co.uk</A>>
<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
<BR>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:57 AM<BR>Subject: [cisco-voip] Advice on
CCM3 to CCM4 Migration please<BR><BR><BR>Hi, <BR><BR>Hopefully one of you guys
have been through this and can recommend the most painless way forward....
<BR><BR>We have a customer who currently has an old 3.3.3 CCM Cluster with
about 2000 phones hanging of it. <BR><BR>They need to go to CCM 4.x and want
to prove the environment / product first by staging the new CCM 4 and then
gradually moving users from the old cluster to the new cluster. The downside
of this is that it is not a straightforward upgrade / replacement as the two
clusters will live side by side for a while. <BR><BR>I have no problem with
this apart from the sheer numbers involved. My initial thought was to use the
BAT tool to import all data from the production cluster to the CCM4 cluster -
but that still leaves me loads of stuff to cross-pollinate i.e. Route
patterns, partitions etc...etc... <BR><BR>My second thought is to build the
CCM4 cluster from the Upgrade 'Replace Server' option whilst building -but
that forces me to use the old CCM3's machine name etc so the two clusters
cannot live side by side....unless there is a way to build the CCM cluster by
the 'Upgrade Replace Server' option and then rename the machine name and
change IP addresses etc... <BR><BR>BTW I know everyone says that you cannot
change machine names because of SQL (but has anyone actually tried this?) -
there are snippets of info available on the web detailing how to change SQL
machine names. <BR><BR>Any advice gratefully received.
<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR><BR> _____
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