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it monitors for CCM and CDR database, unfortunately not ART so far.
Please let me know if anyone has a problem with transaction log size
after 4.1(3)sr1. if so and it turns out to be the ART transaction log,
we will look at adding that to the job.<br>
<br>
Unity does not take a similar approach thus far. They do have an SQL
job dedicated to trucate the transaction log daily, but it still does
not attempt to shrink the TL or database in case it has grown on a
transaction.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
Erick Bergquist wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Is the new SQL job for the CCM database/logs only, or
does it monitor other databases also (CDR, ART)?
--- "Carter, Bill" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com"><bcarter@sentinel.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thanks for the new feature. Will this also show up
in Unity?
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        From: Wes Sisk [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">mailto:wsisk@cisco.com</a>]
        Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:49 AM
        To: Carter, Bill
        Cc: Schuett, Court (MBNAP it); Stu Packett;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
        Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Publisher -
Out of Disk
Space
        
        
        Without backups the transaction log would (and has
on several
systems) consume all avalable disk space.
        
        In all ES after 04.0(02a)ES33 04.1(02)ES26
04.1(03)ES01 there is
a new SQL job to monitor available disk space and if
it drops below 90%
then we automatically truncate and shrink the
transaction logs.
        
        /Wes
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Carter, Bill [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com">mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com</a>]
        Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:53 PM
        To: Wes Sisk
        Cc: Schuett, Court (MBNAP it); Stu Packett;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
        Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Publisher -
Out of Disk
Space
        
        
        You are right, something doesn't sound right. Is
there a "cap"
on the database/ldf log files. How large would it
grow if there was no
backups running??
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                From: Wes Sisk [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">mailto:wsisk@cisco.com</a>]
                Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:14 PM
                To: Carter, Bill
                Cc: Schuett, Court (MBNAP it); Stu Packett;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
                Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager Publisher -
Out of
Disk Space
                
                
                his databases appear relatively 'normal' in size.
Here
are sizes from some profiling I did:
                
                
                Tests completed using CCM 3.2(2c)spF
                
                I added 1000 phones to a system and associated
1000
users.
                Without starting CCM and TFTP just the database
backup
file is 129MB.
                
                My test included 1000 phones with 2 lines and 4
speed
dials each,
                and a user associated with each phone.
                
                Start CCM and TFTP service to genearte default
config
files
                and the backup jumped up to 200MB for 1000 Users.
                
                10,000 phones&users is ~10 times this size, or
1,280MB.
Scale for
                a backup starting at 1GB that does not include
CDR's or
music-on-hold files.
                
                1.5 Million CDR ~ 1,385,002 KB for CDR Database
                /Wes
                
                Carter, Bill wrote:
                        Here are the steps for shrinking the SQL
databases
                        
                        From a command prompt
                        c:\osql -E
                        1> use CDR
                        2> go
                        1> backup log CDR with no_log
                        2> go
                        1> dbcc shrinkdatabase(CDR)
                        2> go
                        1>exit
                        
                        You can also do this to the ART database. When
backups are run, the procedures have the same
affect.
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                                From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On
Behalf Of Schuett, Court
(MBNAP it)
                                Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:02 PM
                                To: 'Stu Packett';
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
                                Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager
Publisher - Out of Disk Space
                                
                                
                                I believe when you back it up, the
backup procedure goes through and compresses all
databases. I ran into
the same problem you're having one time and that
helped tremendously.
Are you running a backup every night? You can also
do it manually.
It's under the SQL Enterprise manager, but I don't
remember the exact
steps. Should be an article on cisco.com on how to
do it though.
                                
                                
                                
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                                Millward Brown
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________________________________
                                From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On
Behalf Of Stu Packett
                                Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:56
PM
                                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
                                Subject: [cisco-voip] CallManager
Publisher - Out of Disk Space
                                
                                
                                My CallManager Publisher ran out of disk
space. It had less than 1MB of free space when I
took a look at it.
I'm having a hard time regaining more disk space.
I've got over 1.6GB
now, but it's dropping. It's an MCS server (forgot
what model) with a
14.9GB C: drive partition. My art.mdf file is 2.9GB
and CDR.mdf is
1.5GB. The art_log.ldf is 70MB and CDR_LOG.ldf is
690MB. What else can
I do as I'm frequently getting the 'out of disk
space' warning in my
system logs. Thanks in advance.
                                Here's what I've done so far:
                                1. Delete all the C:\Program
Files\Cisco\Trace files
                                2. Delete all the IIS log files
                                3. Delete unncessary files that were
previously downloaded.
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