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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Next Servers we will buy are going to be
HP’s or Dells. We currently are a Dell shop and I’m running Unity
on a Dell with no problems. But I will by a HP direct next time for CM, or
IPCC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We were going to buy HP this time, but are
channel partner and Cisco AM made a deal that we couldn’t refuse with
some other purchases.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS. It’s will help the old smartnet
fund. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brian Henry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 18, 2005
11:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Lelio Fulgenzi;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] cisco vs
manufacturer hardware</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cisco always uses the S/N of the box for
SmartNet purposes thus you can get it for the software but not the hardware. So
if you have to open a TAC case about CCM most of the time they want the S/N of
the box to correlate it with CCM. Personally we use HP direct and like
you said get way better prices, but I have not known TAC to point to hardware
as long as the box meets or exceeds the requirements for the product.
Plus if you keep an eye on the array thru the HP utils and check the
fragmentation of the box once and awhile then your doing the typical sysadmin
stuff that has been going on well before CCM. or any other IP Communication
Product.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Fri 11/18/2005 2:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] cisco vs
manufacturer hardware</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Just wondering how many people are sticking with Cisco branded MCS
servers rather than going with the OEM boxes? We've established a great
relationship with HP and they're onsite faster than I can put the phone down
sometimes. What experiences have others seen with OEM boxes? Does the TAC
quickly point at hardware as the problem?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>The cost difference between Cisco vs OEM hardware is quite substantial
and were getting around to having to replace a large number of boxes relatively
soon (thanks to IPCC v3.5) and it's getting a bit difficult to justify the cost
difference, when I can't see it myself.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
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