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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>From my experience and I do
believe from a few other places that I read. If you are going to use Route
Filters with a 9.@ or 9@. then you can drop the pre@, this is a given. As
far as your dial plan you can usually make it CallManager because it knows what
it should be from its own tables, like ISDN, National, etc..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you stick with 9.1XX... then that is
when you might have to do the unknown to let your provider determine what plan
it is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on
behalf of Mark Snow<BR><B>Sent:</B> Fri 12/16/2005 11:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Cisco'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip]
CallManager Route Pattern/Filter Problem...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Lelio is correct, make
sure that digit manipulation is <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">not</SPAN></B> occurring at the Route Pattern, OR
within the Route Groups inside the Route Lists.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">If those are not
stripping anything but <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">PreDot</SPAN></B> then
try this:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Try
changing:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Called Numbering
Plan*: <STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">unknown</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Calling
Numbering Plan*: </SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">unknown</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></B>
</LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Then test your calls –
see if they work – you will have to do a <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">reset</SPAN></B> on the 6608 gateway first, so make
sure that there are no calls going on at the time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Also, since you are
running a 6608 blade on a 6500 Cat, you cannot do the ‘debug isdn q931’ command
I asked about previously.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">LMK if that helps
…</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">And hey, if you do
want to become a Voice Expert soon, check out my class
sometime:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="http://www.ipexpert.com/products_services/product.asp?sku=ip0012">http://www.ipexpert.com/products_services/product.asp?sku=ip0012</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-Mark
Snow</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">CCIE Voice #
14073</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Cisco
[mailto:subs-cisco@cbvcollections.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 16, 2005 8:17
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Mark Snow;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Route
Pattern/Filter Problem...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well I'm far from the
telephony expert I want to be (at this point - give me a few months) but it
would appear that you may be on to something. I took a look at the gateway
configurations within CallManager. Each of the gateways within the
PSTN group (Product : Cisco Catalyst 6000 T1 VoIP Gateway - Device Protocol:
Digital Access PRI) have the same configuration. The following settings
are currently used from the Call Routing Information
(Outbound):</SPAN></FONT></P>
<UL type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Calling Line ID
Presentation*: Restricted</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Calling Party
Selection*: Originator</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Called party IE
number type unknown*: Cisco CallManager</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Calling party IE
number type unknown*: National</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Called Numbering
Plan*: Cisco CallManager</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><STRONG><B><U><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Calling
Numbering Plan*: ISDN</SPAN></FONT></U></B></STRONG><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Number of digits to
strip*: 0</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Caller ID
DN:</SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SMDI</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Base
Port</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">*:</SPAN></FONT> </LI></UL>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you think the
underlined (above) is causing the issue? Is this something I can change
(to "Cisco CallManager") or do I need to involve our
provider?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Mark Snow
[mailto:highspeedsnow@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> December 16, 2005 4:59 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Cisco;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [cisco-voip] CallManager Route
Pattern/Filter Problem...</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Is it a PRI that the
call is going out of on an IOS GW?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">If so, have you done a
‘debug isdn q931’ to ensure that in fact the CCM is dropping the
1?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-Mark
Snow</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">CCIE Voice #
14073</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Cisco<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 16, 2005 7:24
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [cisco-voip] CallManager Route
Pattern/Filter Problem...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm trying to use route filters
(area code == 204 OR etc.) with a "9.@" pattern instead of the more difficult to
manage 9.1204XXXXXXX to route long distance calls.
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The pattern/filter work fine, the
problem is that when the number is matched using 9.@ pattern (verified with the
Cisco the dialled number analyser), by the time it reaches the local
provider somehow the "1" is dropped and the caller is presented with a
message "you must dial 1 to access a long distance number" from the local
provider. If I change the pattern back to 9.1XXXXXXXXXX then the number is
dialled as expected.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've used the dialled number
analyser to ensure that no transformations are taking place at any point along
the route to the PEST gateway. According to the analyser the dialled
number that is sent to the PEST gateway in either case is the same.
However, one works and the other does not.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I should also note that the 9.@
pattern with a filter of (local area code == 604 OR etc.) for local 10 digit
dialling works just fine as either 9.@ or 9.XXXXXXXXXX. Both are routed as
expected.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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