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<DIV><FONT size=2>definately not comforting to hear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>if you could post some details, that would be
great.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>usability as in client end or mgmt end?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Network Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than<BR>50 messages in my inbox at
the end of the day: buffer overrun</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=CORTIZ@broward.org href="mailto:CORTIZ@broward.org">Ortiz, Carlos</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com
href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com">Matt Slaga (US)</A> ; <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A> ;
<A title=ealeatherman@gmail.com href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com">Ed
Leatherman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=JMad@cityofevanston.org
href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">Madziarczyk, Jonathan</A> ; <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip] vg224 vs
vg248</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What kind of issues
were you having that they couldn’t fix? That’s not comforting to
hear.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matt Slaga (US)<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Lelio Fulgenzi; Ed
Leatherman<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Madziarczyk,
Jonathan; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] vg224 vs
vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just a few months ago
I had tac working feverishly on several usability issues with the
vg224s. Their fix: They replaced the vg224s with
vg248s.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Redundancy is not
fully capable on <EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">any</SPAN></FONT></I></EM> of the models as they
all have a single power supply. If you are <EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">that </SPAN></FONT></I></EM>worried about
redundancy, get the CMM with FXS modules.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, April
11, 2006 9:02 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Ed
Leatherman<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Madziarczyk,
Jonathan; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] vg224 vs
vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Interesting, I just got a note
back from my SE with what I'm sure was 'cut and pasted' advantages to the
vg224 and it had redundancy in there. It will be interesting to see what you
find out.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=ealeatherman@gmail.com href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com">Ed
Leatherman</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=JMad@cityofevanston.org
href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">Madziarczyk, Jonathan</A> ; <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:26 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[cisco-voip] vg224 vs vg248<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ok, here is what I have found so far
from my SE about the vg224/SCCP/redundant Link scenario...<BR><BR>This is
undocumented on CCO at the moment (unless it's hidden real good)<BR>If you
bind SCCP to the L0 interface, you can use the MAC address for f0/0 in
callmanager to set up the ports and it works fine. you can shut down f0/0 or
unplug it and it will keep working from the f0/1 interface. I dont have any
additional details yet but that sounds promising.. I'm trying to get an
official nod that this setup would be TAC supported.
<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 4/10/06, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Lelio Fulgenzi</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Excellent comments, thanks. I, for one, appreciate
the time and effort people on this list put in to helping each other
out.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lelio</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Network Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:PlaceName> * <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><BR>(519)
824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than<BR>50 messages in my inbox
at the end of the day: buffer
overrun<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=JMad@cityofevanston.org href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org"
target=_blank>Madziarczyk, Jonathan</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday,
April 10, 2006 1:47 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[cisco-voip] vg224 vs vg248<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For the Loopback
address, let me explain some of my statement. You can enter a Loopback
address. We use EIGRP at our site. VG224 does not support EIGRP,
it does seem to support RIP and OSPF. RIP could cost you a subnet to
have a loopback (not sure if v2 is supported). I didn't feel like
redistributing EIGRP into OSPF just for one device (if you have multiple
vg224s in one location that may make more sense for you). The other
option is to set multiple static routes on the VG224 and your default
gateways to get that loopback address into your routing tables.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My philosophy is:
These are phones, there is a much higher expectation of uptime and
low-latency. Do I want to support fancy and complicated or do I want
to support stable and simple?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As for the
SCCP/MGCP:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That is correct,
SCCP does provide more features than MGCP. However, if you're trying
to use the redundancy of two Ethernet interfaces you can't in SCCP because
it wants a MAC address, you can only enter one address in
CCM.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you're attaching
analog devices, what particular features that SCCP provides did you
want? Would you be doing blind transfers with a fax machine or credit
card machine? If analog phones, will the phones even support the
features you want to use?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In SCCP world, the
configuration is split between the VG224 and the CCM. You have to
configure the CCM and in the VG224 configure each analog port as well.
In MGCP you enter 3-5 basic commands in the VG224 to point it to your CCM
and from there all the configurations for the ports are done on the
CCM. If you're familiar with the IOS commands, that may be a
non-issue, but if anything doesn't work, or you need to make changes, you
now have essentially two separate configurations to administer for every
line.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So if the features
in SCCP override the advantages of redundancy and simplicity, then it sounds
like SCCP is the way to go.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think I'm up to
$.04 now, or maybe a half-shilling.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">JM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Lelio
Fulgenzi [mailto:<A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target=_blank>lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 10, 2006 11:55
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Madziarczyk,
Jonathan; Ed Leatherman<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
<A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] vg224 vs
vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">why
would one use MGCP over SCCP? the chart seems to show that SCCP has more
features.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Network Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:PlaceName> * <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><BR>(519)
824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
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<DIV>
<P
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4 0% 50%; moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=JMad@cityofevanston.org href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org"
target=_blank>Madziarczyk, Jonathan</A>
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target=_blank>Lelio Fulgenzi</A> ; <A title=ealeatherman@gmail.com
href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com" target=_blank>Ed Leatherman</A>
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, April 10, 2006 12:50 PM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE:
[cisco-voip] vg224 vs vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I use a
VG224. I have currently not been able to find a way to make the two
Ethernet Interfaces work as redundant interfaces as far as CCM is
concerned. If you're using SCCP to CCM you have to specify the MAC
address so that doesn't work. If you're using MGCP, you enter the IP
address of the device. Using a loopback address will not work.
It looks like you might be able to use HSRP, but I've never tried
it.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Someone here can
speak to the redundant interface issue I'm sure, but just know that even
though it says it's running IOS, it's not as robust. Just because it
has two Ethernet interfaces, it doesn't mean you can use them the way you
may be wanting to. Otherwise it's a pretty nice box and is simple as
all getout to configure in MGCP.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My
$.02</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">JM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday,
April 10, 2006 10:58 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Ed Leatherman<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] vg224 vs
vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
like the idea of redundant links. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Network Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:PlaceName> * <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><BR>(519)
824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than<BR>50 messages in my
inbox at the end of the day: buffer
overrun<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4 0% 50%; moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=ealeatherman@gmail.com href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Ed Leatherman</A> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target=_blank>Lelio Fulgenzi</A> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, April 10, 2006 11:54 AM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[cisco-voip] vg224 vs vg248</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have some vg224's on order for a project this
summer, the reason we chose them instead of the 248's was we had a
requirement that the devices all needed dual ethernet interfaces (is for
a dorm on remote campus). 248's would have been less expensive due to
the port density but we couldnt get around the dual interface
requirement. Haven't recieved them yet so I can't comment on anything
else about the 224's. <BR><BR>We've been using the 248's in our health
sciences center, haven't really had any problems with them. I'd prefer
IOS on them but thats my only real complaint. No one has tried to hook
up a high speed fax yet though, I heard those werent supported unless
you turn them down. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
4/10/06, <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Lelio Fulgenzi</SPAN></B>
<<A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target=_blank>
lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Just wondering what people's opinions are on the
two analog gateways (vg248 vs vg224). I'm proposing a project that
requires 128 ports (perhaps more) and we only have experience (mostly
good) with the vg248. I'd rather keep our inventory similar so I'm
leaning towards them rather than starting a new with vg224s.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Also, in the configuration guide, there is an
option for IPSEC software. Do I need
this?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Network Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
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w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><BR>(519)
824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than<BR>50 messages in my
inbox at the end of the day: buffer
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