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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I made this comment earlier in one of my
posts&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&#8220;The whole 2gig requirement for CCM
4.X was caused by the idiots at the <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">SBC</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">VoIP</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Call</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType> in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
 w:st="on">Chicago</st1:City></st1:place>.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This was meant to be a joke. The 2 gig
requirement is real and there is a Cisco field notice on it. I used to work at
that call center and they were instrumental in identifying this fact with Cisco.
There are a bunch of real sharp guys/gals over there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can get away with 1G of ram with 4.0
on small deployments but if you have problems it won&#8217;t be supported by
Cisco.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><strong><b><font size=3 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Wydra, Jason<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:50
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Linsemier, Matthew; Voll,
Scott; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 4.X
and RAM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks. I&#8217;m doing an upgrade tonight
and they only have 1 gig. They only have 200 phones so I don&#8217;t expect too
much of an issue. They&#8217;ll be upgrading the memory at a later date. The
whole 2gig requirement for CCM 4.X was caused by the idiots at the <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">SBC</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">VoIP</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Call</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType>
in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Chicago</st1:City></st1:place>. </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><strong><b><font size=3 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:green'>Jason Wydra</span></font></b></strong><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:green'>Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:green'>burwood</span></font></b></strong><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><strong><b><font size=1 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy'>group, inc.</span></font></b></strong><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:navy'>Phone: (312) 327-4677</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:8.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:navy'>Cell: (312) 493-2834</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><a href="mailto:jwydra@burwood.com">jwydra@burwood.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Linsemier,
Matthew [mailto:MLinsemier@apcapital.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:24
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Voll, Scott; Wydra, Jason;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] CCM 4.X
and RAM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I performed the upgrade of 4.1(3) on
CallManager servers with only 1 gig of RAM in production.&nbsp; We didn&#8217;t
have any issues (about 400 devices) with the upgrade and it wasn&#8217;t until
later where the 2 Gig memory requirements showed up in the Cisco docs.&nbsp; It
did seem that the CallManager servers ran a bit sluggish but after we upgraded
the memory this seemed to go away.&nbsp; This could just be Windows since we
didn&#8217;t have any reported IP Telephony issues and we ran for a good four
to five months before adding memory.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Voll, Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:59
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Wydra, Jason;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 4.X
and RAM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don&#8217;t know about install, but
upgrade worked just fine&#8230;&#8230; but that was before they said you needed
2 gigs.&nbsp; Maybe they are checking now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wydra, Jason<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 18, 2006
10:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] CCM 4.X and
RAM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I know you are supposed to have at least 2gig of RAM with
4.X but will CallManager let you install if you only have 1gig? Or will it
fail?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><strong><b><font size=3 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:green'>Jason Wydra</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=green face=Arial><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:green'>Consultant</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
size=1 color=green face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 color=green face=Arial><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:green'>burwood</span></font></b></strong><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>group, inc.</span></font></b></strong></span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
8.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Phone: (312) 327-4677</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:8.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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