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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi Kevin,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yeah, i agree on the polycom. The thing is
just that for the user it's kind of misleading to hear nothing after the other
side disconnected. It's just not clear that the call ended. Is there some way to
instruct the vg to play any kind of tone? I always suspected this would be a
config error on my side, i just can't find anything, neither did
TAC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm using 12.4(6)T btw. Has anyone else
seen this issue?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>many thanks & best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>bernhard</FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Kevin Thorngren
[mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Do 04.05.2006
23:14<BR><B>An:</B> Bernhard Albler<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: AW: [cisco-voip] VG224 Issue /
propable misunderstanding<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Bernhard, </DIV><BR>
<DIV>I doubt it is cabling too. For the polycom I would expect the user of that
phone to hang up at the end of the call. For the other devices that aren't human
controlled they are probably expecting some sort of disconnect procedure so they
know to go on hook. </DIV><BR>
<DIV>I just tried it with a SCCP VG224 connected to CME and I hear reorder for
awhile then dead air. No annunciator in this case, obviously :-) </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Kevin </DIV><BR>
<DIV>On May 4, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Bernhard Albler wrote: </DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Hi Kevin,</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>thank you for your help.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>well, the truth is that I am not sure what the
devices expect for disconnect supervision. One of the devices is a polycom
conference station, maybe someone has experience with that one?</SMALL></FONT>
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>The other devices are a door openers and analog
dect phones.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>What is strange to me is, that no reorder or busy
tone is played after the disconnect (and you can see the onhook with debug vpm
signal). It's just dead air until the annunciator kicks in.</SMALL></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>I tried both power denial as well as polarity
reversal, still no luck.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Could this be a cableing issue (i would believe
not, since everything else, e.g. calling and audio path is ok)?</SMALL></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>many thanks again</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>bernhard</SMALL></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Tahoma><SMALL>Von:</SMALL></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SMALL> Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]</SMALL></FONT>
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<DIV><B><FONT face=Tahoma><SMALL>Gesendet:</SMALL></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SMALL> Do 04.05.2006 21:40</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Tahoma><SMALL>An:</SMALL></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SMALL> Bernhard Albler</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Tahoma><SMALL>Cc:</SMALL></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SMALL> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Tahoma><SMALL>Betreff:</SMALL></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SMALL> Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 Issue / propable
misunderstanding</SMALL></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Hi Bernhard, </DIV><BR>
<DIV>The behavior you describe is pretty much what I would expect. The busy
tone you hear should be fast busy (reorder) and not slow busy (user busy).
</DIV><BR>
<DIV>The CCM is signaling the voice port to go on hook when the call is
disconnected. The FXS device is expected to hang up. If it does not then one
of the GW timers will expire and reoder tone will be played. Since the voice
port is still off hook another timer will then expire and the GW will take the
voice port off hook. You are probably hearing the annunciator because CCM is
waiting for digits and does not receive any. </DIV><BR>
<DIV>What does your device expect for disconnect supervision? </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Kevin </DIV>
<DIV>On May 4, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bernhard Albler wrote: </DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Hi everyone,</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>maybe someone can shed some light on this,
because I'm banging my head against the wall.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>It's probably a misunderstanding of how analog
sccp ports work on my side, but maybe someone still can help:</SMALL></FONT>
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>I have a vg224 which has connected diverse
analog devices connected to it.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>When someone places a call from one of the
analog devices to a ip phone, and the ip phone hangs up, the analog devices
doesn't get anything (now busy tone played) on the sccp version. After some
time, the vg goes offhook again (according to tac this is normal behavior
because of a timer) and so we have dead air until the annunicator kicks
in.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Now:</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>what would be the "correct" behavior for a
analog devices here. On a FXS port, is there even some way to indicate the
device, that the remote site has hung up? Is there some way to get the vg to
play busy tone after the other side went onhook?</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>If someone from cisco wants to look into the
case i have open, the number is 603254525</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>I'm completely stumped here, can someone
help?</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>many thanks in advance</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>bernhard</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
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