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<DIV><FONT size=2>That's a very interesting point you make, because when I'm in
the room with traditional TDM folk, they are quite surprised with the way Cisco
has implemented their telephony solution as well. "What? I can't forward my
non-primary lines?" (...that's more for Scott Voll's amusement than
anything...)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Can you imagine if a TDM person was in the room when Microsoft
presented?!?!?! ;)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tednugent69@yahoo.com href="mailto:tednugent69@yahoo.com">Ted
Nugent</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonvoip@gmail.com
href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">Jonathan Charles</A> ; <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">ciscovoip</A> ; <A
title=BillS@tns.its.psu.edu href="mailto:BillS@tns.its.psu.edu">Simon,
Bill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:11
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] For those
needing a laugh...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Yes I also saw a demo and if a fraction of it works
as<BR>expected (which it didn't in the demo) then it might<BR>be an
interesting addition for a M$ only shop. However<BR>the dumbass gave the
presentation with 2 of our Cisco<BR>SEs in the room that immediately tore into
him about<BR>the "features" offered. I honestly thought the M$ rep<BR>was
going to run out of the room crying because he<BR>couldn't answer ANY of the
questions on voice. He<BR>couldn't even confirm if the signaling was
M$<BR>proprietary, SIP or H323. At any rate, M$ does not<BR>have the best
track record for stability nor Voice<BR>services in the past so it will be a
long time before<BR>they touch any of Cisco's market share with this
new<BR>novelty. The flip to that is Cisco is not making any<BR>friends with
the new CM licensing even if it is a<BR>"wash" when it comes to $.
<BR><BR><BR>--- Jonathan Charles <<A
href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>>
Ummm... Don't be so quick to blast R12... I saw a<BR>> demo of the
system<BR>> and it makes Unity look like a child's toy. Full<BR>> voice
recognition<BR>> with full integration of everything you can do
from<BR>> Outlook (meeting<BR>> scheduling, rescheduling, email, vmail,
etc..)<BR>> <BR>> It is all under NDA at the moment but from what
I<BR>> have been seeing<BR>> Cisco should be very afraid.<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jonathan<BR>> <BR>> On 7/13/06, Lelio
Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > I'll bet we'll be able to
forward non-primary<BR>> lines though. ;)<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of
Guelph *<BR>> Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>> > (519) 824-4120 x56354
(519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<BR>>
><BR>><BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>>
> "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty<BR>> eggs."<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From:
Simon, Bill<BR>> > To: 'ciscovoip'<BR>> > Sent: Thursday, July 13,
2006 2:17 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing
a<BR>> laugh...<BR>> ><BR>> > Haw haw! Microsoft, blue
screen of death, what a<BR>> laughable company. I'm<BR>> > sure
glad my Cisco VoIP solution isn't built on a<BR>> Microsoft
platform.<BR>> ><BR>> > Erm...<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > > From:
Fretz, EA Eric @ IS<BR>> [mailto:Eric.A.Fretz@L-3Com.com]<BR>> > >
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:11 PM<BR>> > > To: ciscovoip<BR>>
> > Subject: [cisco-voip] For those needing a<BR>> laugh...<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > Microsoft has decided to get into the VoIP
/<BR>> Unified<BR>> > > messaging market...<BR>> >
><BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR><A
href="http://searchvoip.techtarget.com/columnItem/0,294698,sid66_gci">http://searchvoip.techtarget.com/columnItem/0,294698,sid66_gci</A><BR>>
> 1199049,00<BR>> > >
.html?track=NL-85&ad=557348&ASRC=EM_NNL_356537<BR>> >
><BR>> > > I can hear the help desk now, "Yes sir.... Your<BR>>
phone has a<BR>> > > blue screen?<BR>> > > Ok, please
disconnect the network cable from the<BR>> phone and<BR>> > >
[click].....<dial tone>....."<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
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