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<DIV><SPAN class=819194101-16082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Please
tell me that they're going to secure this, in order to mitigate any type of
trojan and the like from being uploaded to the phone... but who knows... the may
not...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face="Lucida Calligraphy" color=#408080
size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jason Aarons (US)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2006
8:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[cisco-voip] Upgrading firmware on 7961 remotly<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have this feature
in computers now, one PC downloads a virus/worm from the net and passes it
among friends. Isn’t this how Cyberdyne from Rise of the Machines got
started? Are we building Skynet? Selsius? Skynet? Both started with a
S…. <grin><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdyne_Systems_Corporation">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdyne_Systems_Corporation</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matt Slaga
(US)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, August
15, 2006 4:13 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Wes
Sisk; Craig M Staffin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading
firmware on 7961 remotly</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In regards to your
comment, “</SPAN></FONT>You will greatly benefit from an upcoming phone
feature where 1 remote site phone downloads from TFTP server, then the phones
pass the load among themselves.<FONT face=Arial color=#666699 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666699; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">”
,,,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">where, when,
how? Any details?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matt</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Wes
Sisk<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, August
15, 2006 3:28 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Craig M
Staffin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading
firmware on 7961 remotly</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Craig,<BR><BR>No nerd knobs that I am aware of.
If you are getting all the ACKs back then it sounds like the packet is getting
corrupted in transit. I do not believe the phones validate the checksum
on every packet, but only verifies the whole file reassembled. Can you
send me a packet capture of a phone at the remote location attempting to
upgrade? Or can you access a PC at the remote location and attempt to
TFTP download the phone load from the TFTP server? Check the md5sum of
the downloaded file against the md5sum (<A
href="http://www.etree.org">http://www.etree.org</A>) of the original
file. If you are using a PIX at the remote site you can use the packet
capture feature of it to remotely perform the packet capture. I can
reconstruct the payload from the packet capture and verify if it is corrupt in
transit.<BR><BR>You will greatly benefit from an upcoming phone feature where
1 remote site phone downloads from TFTP server, then the phones pass the load
among themselves.<BR><BR>/Wes<BR><BR>Craig M Staffin wrote:
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Router is
definatly an option as I am part of the network group. However again
this would mean that I or someone from my team would need to manage 350
different TFTP servers. One across each site. So not real
scalable.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wes maybe you know did cisco
monkey with the TFTP times on the phones. The default for TFTP
timeout is 1000ms however I have seen some people change this down to 200 or
300ms.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Craig<BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Would love to however by the time we
are done with our rollout we will </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> have about 350 sites across the globe so if we have to
setup seperate </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> TFTP servers
at each location that is HUGE administration
nightmare.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">Well, you can
always use the router as a tftp server; is that an
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