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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank your for taking time to answer my
question Tim.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This seems like it could be right as you
say, often it comes after 3-4 pages, and even if 3-4 pages come through and I get
communication error and the transmission is broke. The first page could look
really bad. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is it any solutions for this problem? Or is
it hopeless? It must be possible to solve I guess, otherless no one should use
the ata with fax machines at all. And what I know, people have got this
working? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you could think of any solution of
this, please tell me. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you once again, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>Med vänliga
hälsningar<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><ns0:PersonName w:insAuthor="Robin Inderberg"
w:insDate="2006-08-23T18:40:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Robin Inderberg"
w:endInsDate="2006-08-23T18:40:00Z" ns1:ProductID="Robin Kindberg"><font
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href="mailto:robin.inderberg@candidator.se"
title="mailto:robin.kindberg@candidator.se"><span lang=SV>robin.inderberg@candidator.se</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span lang=SV style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>_____________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Telefon:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Direkt:
0322-67 10 19 Candidator AB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Mobil:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Fax:
0322-67 10 99 441 39 ALINGSÅS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tim Reimers
[mailto:tim.reimers@asheville.k12.nc.us] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> den 23 augusti 2006 16:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Robin Inderberg<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] ATA186
sccp through a SIP trunk to TELCO</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This sounds like the fax sync tone
'slippage' for Group III fax machines...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I recall an issue that Cisco discussed
some years ago where the fax sync tones between two machines would stay in sync
for the first couple of pages, but they were moving out of sync with each other
slowly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>After about 3-4 pages, the tones
might not match up at all, and the fax would error out..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Best I can recall, anyway..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There was a CD that Cisco had given us
partners (I was a partner back then, now I'm an end user) that had some
discussions of how this worked..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Something about the delays inherent in
digital lines not being 'nice' to the sync tones..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I may be horribly out of date on my
thinking here--- Wes Sisk can correct me, I'm sure...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>T</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Robin Inderberg<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 23, 2006
8:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Cisco Voip<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] ATA186 sccp
through a SIP trunk to TELCO</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We connect to the PSTN through a SIP trunk to our Telco,
they do have a Cisco SIP Proxy Server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And we have Ata 186 with fax passthrough on our side, when
we succeed with one page, we only get the top of the page, and the page are cut
there. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And when we send, we get communication error on the faxes.
That doesn’t say very much at all. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We use the following audio mode and connect mode. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>AudioMode 0x00150015<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ConnectMode 0x90002400<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Our telco use the following settings, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>voice class codec 5035<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> codec preference 1 g729br8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> codec preference 2 g711alaw<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> codec preference 3 g711ulaw</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0
fallback pass-through g711ulaw <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> Cisco:
NSE=100, fax=96, fax-ack=97, dtmf=121, fax-relay=122<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>
CAS=123, ClearChan=125, PCM switch over u-law=0,A-law=8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>
G726r16 using static payload<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>
G726r24 using static payload<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>-> fax
rate = fax, payload size = 20 bytes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>-> fax
protocol = t38<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
fax-relay ecm enable<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>-> fax
NSF = 0xAD0051 (default)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
codec = g729r8, payload size = 20 bytes,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
Media Setting = flow-through (global)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
Expect factor = 10, Icpif = 20,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
Playout Mode is set to adaptive,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>->
Initial 60 ms, Max 250 ms<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Do you have any idea of what could be wrong? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Med vänliga hälsningar<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><ns0:PersonName w:insAuthor="Robin Inderberg"
w:insDate="2006-08-23T13:46:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Robin Inderberg"
w:endInsDate="2006-08-23T13:46:00Z" ns1:ProductID="Robin Kindberg"><font
face="Courier New"><span lang=SV style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Robin
Inderberg</span></font><u style='text-decoration:none'><span class=msoIns><ins
cite="mailto:Robin%20Inderberg" datetime="2006-08-23T13:46"></ns0:PersonName></ins></span></u></span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=SV style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="mailto:robin.inderberg@candidator.se"
title="mailto:robin.kindberg@candidator.se"><span lang=SV>robin.inderberg@candidator.se</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=SV style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>_____________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Telefon:
0322-67 10 00 </span></font><font size=2 color=silver
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:silver'><a href="http://www.candidator.se/"
title="http://www.candidator.se/"><span lang=SV>www.candidator.se</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=silver face="Courier New"><span lang=SV
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Direkt:
0322-67 10 19 Candidator AB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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0733-47 10 19 Malmgatan 15<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:silver'>Fax:
0322-67 10 99 441 39 ALINGSÅS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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