<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">summary:<DIV>at a 5000 foot level:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>- CRS 4.5 is only for the CCM 5.0 train. It does not support with any of the Windows based CCM's.</DIV><DIV>- CRS 4.5 has some differences:</DIV><DIV> * No HA</DIV><DIV> * Single node only, no expansion servers for Historical Reporting or Recording/Monitoring</DIV><DIV> * BARS server must be run directly on the CRS node.</DIV><DIV> * The repository has been moved from LDAP to an MSDE database (since no LDAP with Linux CCM).</DIV><DIV> * Customers with entitlement can order an upgrade, but the upgrade process is a complete reinstall. There is no migration from a 3.x or 4.0 release. New install and the call center scripts must be loaded into the 4.5 editor and converted.</DIV><DIV> * The 4.5 is Windows based and runs on the MCS operating system (just like other CRS releases) and is NOT LINUX based.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>So, HA will be introduced in the next major release and there will be two code bases until the next major release after that which will unify the CCM support.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Bottom line, only reason to use 4.5 is for CCM 5.0 support. Customers who are on 3.x CCM releases will need to use CRS 3.1 release. Customers on CCM 4.x releases can use either 3.5 or 4.0 depending on what release they are on. Check this for version of CCM to CRS:</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sw_ap_to/crscomtx.pdf">http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sw_ap_to/crscomtx.pdf</A></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>/Wes</DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Oct 14, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Jason Aarons ((US)) wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">4.0(4) fixes a lot of upgrade issues in 4.0(1)-(3) from CRS 3.5(x). <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">4.5 is only for new installs, not upgrades, with CCM5 which only has SOAP AXL API interface.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Go with Express 4.0(4) and CCM 4.1(3) latest sr -jason<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [<A href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tech Guy<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, October 13, 2006 1:20 PM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [cisco-voip] IPCC Express / CRS - Version Info ?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Can anyone enlighten me "very high level, not the details" on the differences or reasons for the 4.0(x) vs. 4.5(x) versions?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Release notes say about the same thing. The software / hardware compatibility guide is about the same too. I thought the 4.5 might be geared for CM 5.0 and the whole linux platform shift or something. But the guide lists the same 2000 OS so I am just not sure. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">I am in the process of trying to setup our IPCC Express Premium servers, which came with 4.0(3) "yes they have been sitting in boxes since January". Seems like every time I think I know what to install I learn about something new. First it was that 4.0(4) was out so I order the upgrade kit for that. Then I hear 4.0(5) is suppose to be out next month from TAC.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Then I run into this 4.5(1) and (2)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">I don't want to delay rolling this out any longer, but having a heck of a time deciding what to do with these many different releases.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><HR size="1"><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P><STRONG> Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. 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