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<DIV><FONT size=2>I don't think it's your fault Louis (unless of course you were
at CIPTUG! ;)......There were plenty of NDA sessions to talk about stuff like
this, and quite honestly, it's the place to talk about it rather than misdirect
people to another product. It's hard not to believe that it is intentional
sometimes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>But it's almost Friday..... ;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lmarasci@cisco.com href="mailto:lmarasci@cisco.com">Louis Marascio
(lmarasci)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lelio@uoguelph.ca
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A> ; <A
title=jsteinberg@gmail.com href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com">Justin
Steinberg</A> ; <A title=millerman1@cox.net
href="mailto:millerman1@cox.net">Steve Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961
Phone at Someone's House - NotesforSetup!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Lelio,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm sorry the messaging got confused after the
acquisition. The original PhoneProxy product (called SCCP
Proxy) that we built at Metreos was based on the CUAE. Prior to the
acquisition, we at Metreos had started to rebuild this product as a standalone
appliance. It has taken us some time after the acquisition to finish the
integration, and thus finish the product. The product is indeed going to
be available from Cisco, as a standalone appliance no longer based on or tied
to the CUAE. In fact, it is orderable as of today! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Again, sorry for the confusion.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Best regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=691025815-26102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Louis</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Justin Steinberg; Steve Miller<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961
Phone at Someone's House - NotesforSetup!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>it's so frustrating when you ask about a product you know is
there and you get told it's no longer available. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>i'm pretty sure this was the Metreos product and i was told
the product no longer exists and was being replaced by the app engine and you
had to write it yourself!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>grrrrrrrr</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jsteinberg@gmail.com href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com">Justin
Steinberg</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=millerman1@cox.net
href="mailto:millerman1@cox.net">Steve Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961
Phone at Someone's House - Notes forSetup!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>If you are planning to deploy a lot of these setups you
should ask your SE about the phone proxy product.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7057/index.html ">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7057/index.html
</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/25/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Steve
Miller</B> <<A
href="mailto:millerman1@cox.net">millerman1@cox.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following is information that I have
rec'd regarding the installation of a 7961 at someone's house who is using
cable or DSL. Is there anything else that we might need to think
about? Thank you!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Notes from Cisco
Engineer:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The remote
equipment at the home office would consist of a Cisco 871 router and a
Cisco phone with a power block. The Cisco 871 would function as the
home office's firewall and router (and would connect to either a cable
modem or a DSL modem depending on the site). The router would be
configured to have an IPSec tunnel back to the office
network (most likely configured off of your existing
concentrator). The remote Cisco 871 would be configured with DHCP
and have the TFTP scope option set to tell all devices the IP address of
the Call Manager server (note the router has a built-in four port
switch).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> At that point,
the IP Phone would register normally to the Call Manager servers using the
IPSec tunnel as it's communication path. The keepalives from the
phone to the CM servers would keep the IPSec tunnel up and running
24/7.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> The restrictions
on this type of deployment are:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-must use G729 codec due to bandwidth restrictions</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-extremely limited QoS control since we are going across the
Internet</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-security policies need to be visited since the remote office would have
access to the corporate internal network (this one is a
biggie)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-sub-issue regarding calling from home office to home office. This
is doable but adds additional security and deployment
issues.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-need to consider the standard IT management overhead associated with
supporting home equipment.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank
you!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>cisco-voip
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