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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=687414017-03112006>While I've pulled a drive many times, there is a
danger.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=687414017-03112006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=687414017-03112006>Out of 100+ drives I've pulled, 4 of them wouldn't boot
because the mirror was broken at what I'm assuming is the wrong
time.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=687414017-03112006>Always preferable to shut down then
pull.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Keith
Klevenski<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 03, 2006 10:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jason
Aarons (US); cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip]
Break Mirror on HP MCS<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve always just pulled
the drive and put in a spare and let it rebuild on our ancient 7835’s.
good info here tho.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jason Aarons
(US)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November 03,
2006 10:03 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Break Mirror on
HP MCS</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You can’t pull a SATA
drive in a MCS-7825 hot, but I’ve pulled many SCSI drives from DL-380s hot. The
Event Viewer logs do a great job of showing what’s happening with the SCSI
controller and the raid re-builds. A 36GB drive takes almost exactly 45
minutes to re-build, it’s all done in Compaq hardware versus software.
Sure if you could power it off that would be recommend, but I’ve seen a
few sites with single MCS-7835 and had to break the raid mirror couple days
before a upgrade and powering down wasn’t a option.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Would you pull a 6724
or <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">NAM</st1:place></st1:country-region> or IDS module in/out of a 6509
hot? Some would say sure, others have lost switches on “hot-swappable”
parts!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know the IBM x440s we
had you could replace CPUs and RAM hot in production, only thing you couldn’t
swap hot was the motherboard! 24x7x365 non-stop
computing!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Voll,
Scott<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November
03, 2006 10:48 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Klaczko,
Edwin; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Break Mirror on
HP MCS</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I always shut down the
Server…. Pull the drive…. Power up the server…. Then put in the new
drive.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have never pulled a
drive in use. Probably not the best option.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Scott<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Klaczko,
Edwin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November
03, 2006 6:17 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [cisco-voip] Break Mirror on HP
MCS</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve ordered some spare HDs and
wanted to use them to keep an extra backup. I’m used to working with Dell
servers and had a bad experience pulling a hot-swap drive live. Their RAID
controller allows you to power down a drive to remove it. I couldn’t find
a similar feature on the HP interface. Is this necessary or is it safe
just to pull the drive live. Any help would be
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eddie
Klaczko</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IP Telephony / Network
Specialist</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">CC <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Schaumburg</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">School District</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
54</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">eklaczko@sd54.org</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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