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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=451155814-06122006><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Funny, I used to recommend this type of deployment quite because of all
the version interdependencies and other impacts to the cluster IPCCx
brought. I have eased off that recommendation, but 4.5 kind of brings it
back to the forefront.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=451155814-06122006><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-- Fred Nielsen</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bernhard
Albler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ed
Leatherman<BR><B>Cc:</B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[cisco-voip] Thoughts on 5.X CCM<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HI,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One was a new
deployment, one was a reinstall. Since the reinstall deployment was quite small,
it wasn’t so much of a hassle (you can take the routing scripts over to the new
system). The configuration of agents etc. of course took some time but it was a
nice opportunity to clean up a little ;-).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also keep in mind, that
4.5 doesn’t support IPCC-X HA yet. I guess if you have a large deployment, I
would still hold out a little.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">bernhard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tel.: +43 (316) 405 455
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Ed
Leatherman [mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gesendet:</SPAN></B> Mittwoch, 06. Dezember 2006
14:21<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">An:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Bernhard Albler</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts on 5.X
CCM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bernhard,<BR><BR>In your implementations of
IPCC-X 4.5, did you do an upgrade (reinstall) from 4.0 or was it from scratch?
If you did, how did that process go for you?<BR><BR>We currently run IPCCX 4.0
and the migration process from 4.0 to the version 4.5 which supports CCM 5 is
the biggest roadblock I have right now to upgrading callmanager. From everything
I've been told there is no "upgrade" path and we will have to do a complete
reinstallation to get to 4.5, and we have to do it at the same time we upgrade
callmanager since 4.5 only supports ccm 5. what a mess! If I thought I would
have this much trouble upgrading callmanager+IPCCX, i'd have put our call
centers on a smaller seperate CCM cluster.
<BR><BR>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 12/6/06, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Bernhard
Albler</SPAN></B></st1:PersonName> <<A
href="mailto:balbler@nts.at">balbler@nts.at</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Folks,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have two
implementations of CCM 5.0(4) and IPCC-X 4.5 (both ipcc-x
premium)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Worked pretty fine, no
issues with IPCC-X so far. CCM has a few bugs. Some smaller some larger. There
is something a bit annoying with regard to CTI with 5.0(4): CTI Callrequests
(from agent desktop for example) will wait for a 20 second overlap dialing
timeout. But that is fixed since ES 17 or so.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you happen to run
7825H1 Servers: very nasty bug there with the HP raid driver: IO Starvation
spikes every 5 hours will sometimes cause the CCM Service to core dump.
Ouch.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Otherwise, call control
is really quite stable on 5.0.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bernhard
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">DI (FH) <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Bernhard Albler</st1:PersonName>, NTS AG
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tel.: +43 (316) 405 455
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Von:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target=_blank>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im
Auftrag von </SPAN></B>Voll, Scott<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gesendet:</SPAN></B> Mittwoch, 06. Dezember 2006
00:45<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">An:</SPAN></B> Vince Loschiavo;
Wydra, Jason; <A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts on 5.X
CCM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In any of the
implementations have they been using IPCCx or Unity. If so, what
versions.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Scott</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target=_blank>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Vince Loschiavo<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:27
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Wydra, Jason; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts on 5.X
CCM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yeah, I have a couple
of 5.0(4) implementations.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The call control and
functionality of the phones is rock solid.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The Admin Web page
needs a little work....ran into a few bugs...but nothing
major.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm anxiously awaiting
the 5.1 release...available on CCO next week. Hopefully they fixed those
admin page bugs! :P</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target=_blank>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Wydra, Jason<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:22
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [cisco-voip] Thoughts on 5.X
CCM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm curious how much 5.X is being
deployed. I haven't heard too much buzz about it. Is it because it's unstable,
scary, unappealing or what? I'm trying to get an idea before I start
recommending it or building it in my lab. Any war stories? Most of the
deployments I see today are 4.1.3 because it's a trusted/stable version. Is 5.X
still too immature even though it's been available for some time?
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jason
Wydra</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Berbee</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cisco Voice
Engineer</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">8725 West Higgins Road,
Suite 700</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chicago</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,
<st1:State w:st="on">Il</st1:State></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.
60631</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IP phone
773.867.6084</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cell
630-209-9792</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="mailto:Jason.Wydra@berbee.com" target=_blank>Jason.Wydra@berbee.com
</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://www.berbee.com"
target=_blank>www.berbee.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Ed Leatherman<BR>Senior
Voice Engineer<BR>West Virginia University<BR>Telecommunications and Network
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