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TAC. Actually for CM 5.0 it was just fixed 2 days ago. ES 21 (5.0.4-2121) fixed
the issue for us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Jonathan Charles
[mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 06. Dezember
2006 14:37<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> Bernhard Albler; Erick
Bergquist<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Voll, Scott; Vince Loschiavo;
Wydra, Jason; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>That's funny.<br>
<br>
That exact same bug was in OS 2000.2.7 for the Windows version for the HP
servers.<br>
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Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/6/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bernhard
Albler</span></b> <<a href="mailto:balbler@nts.at">balbler@nts.at</a>>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Folks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have two implementations of CCM 5.0(4) and
IPCC-X 4.5 (both ipcc-x premium)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Worked pretty fine, no issues with IPCC-X so far.
CCM has a few bugs. Some smaller some larger. There is something a bit annoying
with regard to CTI with 5.0(4): CTI Callrequests (from agent desktop for
example) will wait for a 20 second overlap dialing timeout. But that is fixed
since ES 17 or so.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you happen to run 7825H1 Servers: very nasty
bug there with the HP raid driver: IO Starvation spikes every 5 hours will
sometimes cause the CCM Service to core dump. Ouch.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Otherwise, call control is really quite stable on
5.0.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bernhard </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>DI (FH) Bernhard Albler, NTS AG </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:balbler@nts.at" target="_blank"> balbler@nts.at</a></span></font><font
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Voll, Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 06. Dezember
2006 00:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> Vince Loschiavo; Wydra, Jason;
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts
on 5.X CCM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In any of the implementations have they been
using IPCCx or Unity. If so, what versions.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Vince Loschiavo<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 05, 2006
3:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Wydra, Jason; <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] Thoughts
on 5.X CCM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Yeah, I have a couple of 5.0(4) implementations.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The call control and functionality of the phones
is rock solid.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The Admin Web page needs a little work....ran
into a few bugs...but nothing major.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'm anxiously awaiting the 5.1
release...available on CCO next week. Hopefully they fixed those admin
page bugs! :P</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Wydra, Jason<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 05, 2006
6:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] Thoughts on
5.X CCM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I'm curious how much 5.X is being deployed. I haven't heard too much
buzz about it. Is it because it's unstable, scary, unappealing or what? I'm
trying to get an idea before I start recommending it or building it in my lab.
Any war stories? Most of the deployments I see today are 4.1.3 because it's a trusted/stable
version. Is 5.X still too immature even though it's been available for some
time? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Jason Wydra</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Berbee</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Cisco Voice Engineer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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