If you worked for me, and you picked the new Lenovo IBM PCs, I would fire you.<br><br>My point is more to the fact that by not allowing people to play with CCM5 on VMWare, they are guaranteeing that most of us cannot train on the system.
<br><br>For that reason, I cannot recommend CCM5 for any of my customers.<br><br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/6/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Simon, Bill</b> <<a href="mailto:bills@tns.its.psu.edu">
bills@tns.its.psu.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">VMware has never been supported. Cisco's now finally taking a stand and
<br>enforcing it, so it seems. Frankly a 7835 is relatively cheap, and a<br>very safe investment. I don't see why someone running their own<br>server-based phone system wouldn't have one on hand for the day that one<br>
of their CallManagers explodes and they need to replace the hardware in<br>a hurry. Those 24/7 hardware replacement contracts are great but<br>they're not as fast as anyone would like.<br><br>Cisco has never been the "inexpensive" solution, so I always wonder why
<br>people try to cheap out on Cisco stuff. But it's the "solid" solution,<br>like IBM once was (still is?). "No one ever got fired for buying<br>IBM..." (20 years ago)<br><br><br>Jonathan Charles wrote:
<br>> So, there it is. VMWare is supported by the application (you can<br>> install, but cannot activate any services, so you can't do any training<br>> on your own). And completely unsupported for testing purposes.
<br>><br>> Here's the funny part.<br>><br>> I use VMWare to ensure that my backups work (I restore my backup twice a<br>> month to a VMWare box running 4.1(3) to make sure the data migrated).<br>> Since I can't do that with CallManager 5, and since I cannot install
<br>> CallManager 5 in my lab (we are not going to buy a dedicated 7835 just<br>> for testing and training), I am forced to recommend to all of my<br>> customers NOT to install CallManager 5 and to stick with 4.1
and 4.2.<br>><br>> I would strongly urge Cisco to remedy this situation and provide<br>> partners with a two-node, ten-phone 30-day training license for VMWare.<br><br>_______________________________________________
<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
</a><br></blockquote></div><br>