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size=2>VMware is not supported for production deployments, which is really the
type of scenario the DMA is intended to address. However, CM5 does
specifically detect for and allow an install under VMware. Cisco's
mobile "demo in a box" program is even being revamped to run under
VMware with CM5. Your Cisco channel or sales team is able to get
a limited use demo license for you to run on VMware, with sufficient
justification.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=241040923-07122006><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>Understand I'm not defending Cisco's position on how difficult they have
made adoption with their licensing model (they *really* need to implement a
default demo license like Unity), just trying to point out what may be
possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=241040923-07122006><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-- Fred Nielsen</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jonathan
Charles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> cisco
voip<BR><B>Subject:</B> [cisco-voip] CallManager 5 license for
VMWare<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>OK, I am getting a LOT of people telling me to run DMA on a
CallManager 4.1 and just go get a license for my CCM5.0(4) installation on
VMWare.<BR><BR>Well, I finally actually tried it, and all of my fears have been
realized and here is a formal response to all. <BR><BR>When you go to get the
license, you get the following after entering a MAC that begins with 005056....
<BR><BR>"Please Enter a Valid MAC Address"<BR><BR>So, there it is. VMWare is
supported by the application (you can install, but cannot activate any services,
so you can't do any training on your own). And completely unsupported for
testing purposes. <BR><BR>Here's the funny part.<BR><BR>I use VMWare to ensure
that my backups work (I restore my backup twice a month to a VMWare box running
4.1(3) to make sure the data migrated). Since I can't do that with CallManager
5, and since I cannot install CallManager 5 in my lab (we are not going to buy a
dedicated 7835 just for testing and training), I am forced to recommend to all
of my customers NOT to install CallManager 5 and to stick with 4.1 and
4.2.<BR><BR>I would strongly urge Cisco to remedy this situation and provide
partners with a two-node, ten-phone 30-day training license for
VMWare.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jonathan<BR><SPAN class=smaller><SPAN class=smaller><SPAN
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