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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Justin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would like to hear more about your
comments you made about problems with CTI and AC line status. How will this be
a problem? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also Dan, why introduce a Gatekeeper how
will this help on a centralized design, I’m not doing any intercluster trunks?
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dan Cavanaugh
[mailto:dcavanaugh@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Justin Steinberg<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ryan O'Connell;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] MWI with
overlapping numbers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Total agreement with
Justin. What you have done at this point is introduced layers of
translation and complexity that don't need to be there. A nice design is
exactly what Justin suggests below, with the addition of a GateKeeper.
The Gatekeeper will add the filter you need to determine if an extension is on
your cluster. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/6/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Justin
Steinberg</span></b> <<a href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com">jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>You will notice other
problems with this approach such as:<br>
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CDR issues since CDR is not partition aware <br>
CTI issues<br>
AC issues with line state updates<br>
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I think it would make life easier to use E164 numbers as the DN and use translation
patterns within each site to translate four digits to E164. <br>
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Just my thoughts, and I do realize making this conversion would be a real pain.
:) <br>
<br>
Justin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/6/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ryan
O'Connell</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com"
target="_blank"> Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span></span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Fixed it<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The fix was to change the MWI CSS to
search the translation Table instead of each sites local partition. And to
change the MWI notification in Unity back to "X" <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
on behalf of Ryan O'Connell <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 3/6/2007 3:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] MWI with
overlapping numbers <br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I'm stuck on this one. Here is the
scenario.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>IPT customer, with lots of phones. They
are using a Centralized model where CallManger and Unity are at the head office
providing services for head office and all branch locations. This is a big
customer and DN overlapp is a real issue so they decided they wanted to go 4
digit dialing within a given site, and 10 digit dialing between sites. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>No problem</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I setup each location with a
different <sitename>Oncluster Partition and added 4 digit DN's to
these partitions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>phones can dial each other
using 4 digits within a site <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>when they dial another site the
must dial 11 digits. example to dial <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City>
they dial 917808885180 <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A translation pattern is used
to strip the pattern and search the correct sites partition then
strip the 91780888 off the number leaving 5180 <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For centralized voicemail, I
used different "VoiceMailProfiles" to prefix the numbers going
into Unity so when someone from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City>
dials into Unity 780888 is prefixed to the 5180 putting them into the
correct mailbox. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To light MWI lamps, I had to
turn Multitenant Mode on so that VM Ports can see the translations created
and all works fine<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>HERE is the problem</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When someone has the same
last 4 digit dn's at different sites, MWI only works for the site
who's partition comes first in the MWI CSS <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Example <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Calgary</st1:place></st1:City>
phone with DN 4035555180 and an Edmonton Phone 7808885180</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Unity mailbox are as follows <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Calgary</st1:place></st1:City> user is
4035555180 and the Edmonton User is 7808885180 <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>both message notification
feilds under each subscriber have been changed from the default X to 5180
because the actual extension is only 4 digits not 10 (I THINK
HERE IS MY PROBLEM BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT) <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I leave a message for the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City> user <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>MWI outbound ports use the
Translation pattern to translate 7808885180 to 5180 in the edmOnCluster
partition. And tell the phone to dial the lamp code <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The MWI-ON CSS has partitions
in the order of cgyOncluster - then edmOncluster. It doesn't know better
it just matches 5180 to the cgyOncluster and the lamp turns on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>I know you may need a decoder ring to understand
this email, but any help is appreciated</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ryno</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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