<div>The GateKeeper helps you perform a basic translation. The way I have it configured is each site on the network uses (2) route lists, SITE-RL and SITE-GK-RL. All local route patterns, local 7 digit, 911, etc. use the SITE-RL which points to the local VG. You are done there. Any 91.[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx dial pattern is routed to the SITE-GK-RL. Keep in mind that ALL your extensions at all sites are the full E164 number, 6025028867. A user dials
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<div>(RG-1) Strip the preDot and send it to the GateKeeper. The GateKeeper will maintain ranges of extensions available on the CallManager cluster or multiple clusters(60250288..). The GateKeeper controlled trunks to CallManager will have a CSS that has access to all SITE-EXTENSIONS partitions. If the 10 digit number matches a defined range on the GateKeeper, the call is placed ON-Net. If this request fails, --> RG-2.
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<div>(RG-2) Send it to GateKeeper. The GateKeeper will maintain a list of 91xxx....... routes. The xxx will be the local area code for each gateway registered to GateKeeper. If the GateKeeper has a gateway registered for 91602......., the call will be routed to a gateway on the network and the call will be placed as a local call. If there is not a registered gateway with the 91602 zone defined, -->RG-3.
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<div>(RG-3) Finally send the call to the local VG as a long distance call.</div>
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<div>You said you weren't doing any intercluster trunks. The only trunk needed would be to the GateKeeper. It would take place of your CSS and PT manipulations. This is very modular and scalable in design. It also allows you to just plug in another site(or company) overnight without further thought about overlapping dialplans. Users don't need to be notified about dialing rules for ON-Net vs. OFF-Net calls, they just simply call each other the same way they always have. What it does not accomplish is the silly abbreviated dialing between sites. Everyone would love to dial across the nation using only 4 digits. This is a pipe dream and you will spend many nights undoing what you thought would scale for your company.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would like to hear more about your comments you made about problems with CTI and AC line status. How will this be a problem?
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also Dan, why introduce a Gatekeeper how will this help on a centralized design, I'm not doing any intercluster trunks?
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Total agreement with Justin. What you have done at this point is introduced layers of translation and complexity that don't need to be there. A nice design is exactly what Justin suggests below, with the addition of a GateKeeper. The Gatekeeper will add the filter you need to determine if an extension is on your cluster.
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<p><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 3/6/07, <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Justin Steinberg</span></b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You will notice other problems with this approach such as:<br><br>CDR issues since CDR is not partition aware <br>CTI issues
<br>AC issues with line state updates<br><br>I think it would make life easier to use E164 numbers as the DN and use translation patterns within each site to translate four digits to E164. <br><br>Just my thoughts, and I do realize making this conversion would be a real pain. :)
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The fix was to change the MWI CSS to search the translation Table instead of each sites local partition. And to change the MWI notification in Unity back to "X"
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> on behalf of Ryan O'Connell <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tue 3/6/2007 3:07 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IPT customer, with lots of phones. They are using a Centralized model where CallManger and Unity are at the head office providing services for head office and all branch locations. This is a big customer and DN overlapp is a real issue so they decided they wanted to go 4 digit dialing within a given site, and 10 digit dialing between sites.
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I setup each location with a different <sitename>Oncluster Partition and added 4 digit DN's to these partitions.
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">phones can dial each other using 4 digits within a site </span></font>
<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">when they dial another site the must dial 11 digits. example to dial Edmonton they dial 917808885180 </span>
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A translation pattern is used to strip the pattern and search the correct sites partition then strip the 91780888 off the number leaving 5180
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For centralized voicemail, I used different "VoiceMailProfiles" to prefix the numbers going into Unity so when someone from Edmonton dials into Unity 780888 is prefixed to the 5180 putting them into the correct mailbox.
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To light MWI lamps, I had to turn Multitenant Mode on so that VM Ports can see the translations created and all works fine
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HERE is the problem</span></font></p>
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When someone has the same last 4 digit dn's at different sites, MWI only works for the site who's partition comes first in the MWI CSS
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Example Calgary phone with DN 4035555180 and an Edmonton Phone 7808885180</span></font></p>
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Unity mailbox are as follows Calgary user is 4035555180 and the Edmonton User is 7808885180 </span></font>
<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">both message notification feilds under each subscriber have been changed from the default X to 5180 because the actual extension is only 4 digits not 10 (I THINK HERE IS MY PROBLEM BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT)
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I leave a message for the Edmonton user </span></font>
<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MWI outbound ports use the Translation pattern to translate 7808885180 to 5180 in the edmOnCluster partition. And tell the phone to dial the lamp code
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<li style="COLOR: black"><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The MWI-ON CSS has partitions in the order of cgyOncluster - then edmOncluster. It doesn't know better it just matches 5180 to the cgyOncluster and the lamp turns on.
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