That is absolutely idiotic.<br><br>What if you are doing a server replacement for a 3.3 to 6.0 server? How would you do it???<br><br><br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/7/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Matt Slaga (US)</b> <<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Interesting. Cisco was hit hard on this at the UC 6.0 Partner
Beta training, and the IPC BU repeated many times that the phones had to be
registered to be counted in the license file.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Jonathan Charles
[mailto:<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 07, 2007 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cbomba@s4nets.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cbomba@s4nets.com</a>; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><div><span class="e" id="q_112675280ee24273_1"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1</span></div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">This is NOT true.<br>
<br>
I just did an upgrade (3.3 to 5.1)... and we built a new server with CCM3.3,
restored the backup (in a lab, no phones present), upgraded to 4.1, ran DMA and
upgraded to 5.1 and restored the DMA data. <br>
<br>
The license was for all of the phones configured (zero phones were registered
at the time DMA was run), and the customer had a full upgrade license for all
configured phones.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan</p>
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<p><span>On 5/7/07, <b>Matt Slaga (US)</b>
<<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>>
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<p>Actually, this is not the case. It will only
generate DLUs for phones<br>
that are registered with the CallManager server. It will skip any<br>
device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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</a>] On Behalf Of Christopher M.<br>
Bomba<br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
<br>
Who said you had to buy the phones. You can just put phones in with<br>
bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those. I thought
they<br>
had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in <br>
the system. You can create IP communicators or any other phone to
boost<br>
the DLUs. That is a big problem since anybody can do this.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
--original message--<br>
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thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and <br>
they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when<br>
given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what<br>
configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the<br>
lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then<br>
setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for<br>
free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards <br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
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Mob: +2010-2833868<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.act-eg.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.act-eg.com</a><br>
E-mail: <a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a><br>
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________________________________<br>
<br>
From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:<a href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
ealeatherman@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM<br>
To: Ahmed Elnagar<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
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<br>
hi Ahmed,<br>
<br>
When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all<br>
the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you<br>
just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it <br>
converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If<br>
its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm<br>
assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. <br>
<br>
We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our<br>
4.1 system.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps.<br>
<br>
Ed<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <<a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">aelnagar@act-eg.com
</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello all;<br>
<br>
A customer wants to upgrade
from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am<br>
worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for<br>
callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the <br>
DLUs??<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards<br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology
(ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab
St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
<br>
Mob : +2010-2833868<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.act-eg.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.act-eg.com</a> <<a href="http://www.act-eg.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.act-eg.com/</a> ><br>
E-mail: <a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a><br>
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