<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Could it be that phones that were at
least registered before and now offline are ok, but phones that are "not
found" meaning never registered to the system are not?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Carlos</font>
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<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Matt Slaga \(US\)"
<Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com></b> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">05/07/2007 12:12 PM</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">cbomba@s4nets.com, cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade
4.1 >>> 5.1</font></table>
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<br><font size=2 color=#1f497d face="sans-serif">Interesting. Cisco
was hit hard on this at the UC 6.0 Partner Beta training, and the IPC BU
repeated many times that the phones had to be registered to be counted
in the license file.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, May 07, 2007 11:59 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<b><br>
Cc:</b> cbomba@s4nets.com; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">This is NOT true.<br>
<br>
I just did an upgrade (3.3 to 5.1)... and we built a new server with CCM3.3,
restored the backup (in a lab, no phones present), upgraded to 4.1, ran
DMA and upgraded to 5.1 and restored the DMA data. <br>
<br>
The license was for all of the phones configured (zero phones were registered
at the time DMA was run), and the customer had a full upgrade license for
all configured phones.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan</font>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">On 5/7/07, <b>Matt Slaga (US)</b>
<</font><a href=mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">>
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Actually, this is not the case.
It will only generate DLUs for phones<br>
that are registered with the CallManager server. It will skip any<br>
device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: </font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
[mailto:</font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">] On Behalf Of Christopher
M.<br>
Bomba<br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM<br>
To: </font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
<br>
Who said you had to buy the phones. You can just put phones in with<br>
bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those. I thought
they<br>
had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in
<br>
the system. You can create IP communicators or any other phone to
boost<br>
the DLUs. That is a big problem since anybody can do this.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
--original message--<br>
<br>
thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and
<br>
they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when<br>
given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what<br>
configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the<br>
lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then<br>
setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for<br>
free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards <br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
<br>
Mob: +2010-2833868<br>
Website: </font><a href="http://www.act-eg.com/"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>www.act-eg.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
E-mail: </font><a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>aelnagar@act-eg.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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________________________________<br>
<br>
From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:</font><a href=mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>
ealeatherman@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">]<br>
Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM<br>
To: Ahmed Elnagar<br>
Cc: </font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
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<br>
hi Ahmed,<br>
<br>
When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all<br>
the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you<br>
just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it <br>
converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If<br>
its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm<br>
assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. <br>
<br>
We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our<br>
4.1 system.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps.<br>
<br>
Ed<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <</font><a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>aelnagar@act-eg.com
</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello all;<br>
<br>
A customer wants to upgrade from CM 4.1 to
5.1, what I am<br>
worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for<br>
callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the
<br>
DLUs??<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards<br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin
, Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
<br>
Mob : +2010-2833868<br>
Website: </font><a href="http://www.act-eg.com/"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>www.act-eg.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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