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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ed Leatherman
[mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 07, 2007 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christopher M. Bomba<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matt Slaga (US); cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We're doing a mock upgrade this
week in the lab, I'll see what it does. I've been told both things also.<br>
<br>
We're loading one of our BARS backups onto a test server and then doing the
upgrade process on it.. so should be very obvious if it gives me licenses for
all the unregistered devices on the cluster or just the few that we endup
plugging up in the lab. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 5/7/07, <b>Christopher M. Bomba</b>
<<a href="mailto:cbomba@s4nets.com">cbomba@s4nets.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>That is good. I was told both. It
would have been a shame to see people<br>
abusing this.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com
</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:12 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cbomba@s4nets.com">cbomba@s4nets.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
<br>
Actually, this is not the case. It will only generate DLUs for
phones<br>
that are registered with the CallManager server. It will skip any<br>
device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
</a>] On Behalf Of Christopher M.<br>
Bomba<br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
<br>
Who said you had to buy the phones. You can just put phones in with<br>
bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those. I thought
they<br>
had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in <br>
the system. You can create IP communicators or any other phone to
boost<br>
the DLUs. That is a big problem since anybody can do this.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
--original message--<br>
<br>
thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and <br>
they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when<br>
given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what<br>
configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the<br>
lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then<br>
setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for<br>
free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards <br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
<br>
Mob: +2010-2833868<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.act-eg.com">www.act-eg.com</a><br>
E-mail: <a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a><br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
<br>
From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:<a href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com">
ealeatherman@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM<br>
To: Ahmed Elnagar<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1<br>
<br>
<br>
hi Ahmed,<br>
<br>
When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all<br>
the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you<br>
just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it <br>
converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If<br>
its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm<br>
assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. <br>
<br>
We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our<br>
4.1 system.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps.<br>
<br>
Ed<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <<a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com">aelnagar@act-eg.com
</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello all;<br>
<br>
A customer wants to upgrade
from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am<br>
worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for<br>
callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the <br>
DLUs??<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks and Best Regards<br>
<br>
Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>
Network Field Engineer<br>
<br>
Advanced Computer Technology
(ACT)<br>
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab
St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt<br>
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt<br>
<br>
Mob : +2010-2833868<br>
Website: <a
href="http://www.act-eg.com">www.act-eg.com</a> <<a
href="http://www.act-eg.com/">http://www.act-eg.com/</a> ><br>
E-mail: <a
href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a><br>
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West Virginia University<br>
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West Virginia University<br>
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