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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Kevin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I had a very informative discussion few months ago with Dan in this
group. I will just repost our conversation, about scalable dialplans. Read from
the bottom up!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ryan,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -Yes each location has there own customized
translation pattern to expand a 4 digit call to a full 10 digit extension.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> - Funnny you should ask. No I don't like
to send the @ route to the GateKeeper. I like to be more
specific. I have been thinking of adding that to the design but I would
prefer to perform more testing. I would love to finally be able to bring
up my missed call log, see a missed call from an E164 number, hit the dial key
and have it route the call correctly. The typical user doesn't like to
see the prepended 91 in their call logs. I agree. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -Wow you have put a lot of thought into your
dialplan, good for you. I only configure zones for DID numbers. The
sites operate just as you described. I put non DID extensions into a
seperate partition. Then give them a fake E164 number beggining with a
1. 111.901.4567. The remainder of the number can mirror the DID(s)
for the site. You want to plan ahead to make sure you will never have
overlap in Unity. CallManager ois finished here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -Centralized Unity just works. No
translations, no masks. The CSS for Unity includes all SITE-DID partitons
as well as SITE-NonDID partitions. There is no overlap so Unity is
capable of sending MWI On/Off as well as transferring to all extensions.
This also serves as a back door transfer to non DID extensions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -CAC is used here. The LOCATIONS in
CallManager are enforced and you have additional bandwidth policing at the
GateKeeper.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Everything just works!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/12/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ryan
O'Connell</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com"
title="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Dan,</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I like it, very slick. Thank you for
putting such detail in your response as well. I hope you don't mind me asking a
few more questions I'm intrigued now. Besides I'm still early in the design
phase and you may sway me to alter my plans. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-
In your design you have all your internal DN's set to be E.164 numbers. Are you
using some sort of Translation patterns at each of the sites to maintain 4
digit dial within a given site?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
I don't have a lot of experience with Gatekeepers so let me ask you this when
using a Gatekeeper controlled trunk is it just one route into CallManager like
a default route? Using your example: User dials 91.6025028867, the RG-1 strips
predot and sends it to Gatekeeper. I assume there is a default route command
that sends all 10 digit numbers to CCM. Once it gets there since the Trunks
Inbound CSS has all "SITE_EXTENTIONS" partitions so therefore the
call completes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
</span></font>What about non-DID's at remote sites do you have them in another
partition or something that the Gatekeeper can't see? Example at your remote
site you don't use DID's so do you still assign them a E.164 number? What
happens if that E.164 number is an actual number for MacDonalds at that remote
location but it happens to be the same number that you assigned to a non-DID at
the remote location?<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
What about voicemail, I'm not sure if you're using centralized voicemail with
Unity but that is what I'm using. How are you handling Trap connections and MWI
for remote locations? Do those outbound Unity ports have the same CSS that you
applied to your Gatekeeper controlled trunk? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
With your design are you still using CAC? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Aren't Dialplans fun!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Cheers Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=q><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b></span><span
class=q><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma'> Dan Cavanaugh [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcavanaugh@gmail.com"
target="_blank" title="mailto:dcavanaugh@gmail.com">dcavanaugh@gmail.com</a>]</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Mon 3/12/2007 6:33 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Ryan O'Connell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Justin Steinberg; <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"
title="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net </a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<span id="q_111497270e676e5f_3"><span class=e><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b>
Re: [cisco-voip] MWI with overlapping numbers</span><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</span>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><span id="q_111497270e676e5f_5">The GateKeeper helps you perform a
basic translation. The way I have it configured is each site on the
network uses (2) route lists, SITE-RL and SITE-GK-RL. All local route
patterns, local 7 digit, 911, etc. use the SITE-RL which points to the local
VG. You are done there. Any 91.[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx dial pattern is
routed to the SITE-GK-RL. Keep in mind that ALL your extensions at all
sites are the full E164 number, 6025028867. A user dials 91.6025028867,
not knowing if this number is on your network or a local McDonalds. The
SITE-GK-RL consists of (3) route groups and does the following:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(RG-1) Strip the preDot and send it to the GateKeeper. The
GateKeeper will maintain ranges of extensions available on the CallManager
cluster or multiple clusters(60250288..). The GateKeeper controlled
trunks to CallManager will have a CSS that has access to all SITE-EXTENSIONS
partitions. If the 10 digit number matches a defined range on the
GateKeeper, the call is placed ON-Net. If this request fails, -->
RG-2. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(RG-2) Send it to GateKeeper. The GateKeeper will maintain
a list of 91xxx....... routes. The xxx will be the local area code for
each gateway registered to GateKeeper. If the GateKeeper has a gateway
registered for 91602......., the call will be routed to a gateway on the
network and the call will be placed as a local call. If there is not a
registered gateway with the 91602 zone defined, -->RG-3. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(RG-3) Finally send the call to the local VG as a long distance
call.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>You said you weren't doing any intercluster trunks. The only
trunk needed would be to the GateKeeper. It would take place of your CSS
and PT manipulations. This is very modular and scalable in design.
It also allows you to just plug in another site(or company) overnight
without further thought about overlapping dialplans. Users don't need to
be notified about dialing rules for ON-Net vs. OFF-Net calls, they just simply
call each other the same way they always have. What it does not
accomplish is the silly abbreviated dialing between sites. Everyone would
love to dial across the nation using only 4 digits. This is a pipe dream
and you will spend many nights undoing what you thought would scale for your
company. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/11/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ryan
O'Connell</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com"
target="_blank" title="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com">Roconnell@unislumin.com </a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hi Justin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I would like to hear more about your comments you made about
problems with CTI and AC line status. How will this be a problem? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Also Dan, why introduce a Gatekeeper how will this help on a
centralized design, I'm not doing any intercluster trunks? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Ryan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dan Cavanaugh [mailto: <a
href="mailto:dcavanaugh@gmail.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:dcavanaugh@gmail.com">dcavanaugh@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26
AM <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Justin Steinberg<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ryan O'Connell; <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"
title="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] MWI with
overlapping numbers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Total agreement with Justin. What you have done
at this point is introduced layers of translation and complexity that don't
need to be there. A nice design is exactly what Justin suggests below,
with the addition of a GateKeeper. The Gatekeeper will add the filter you
need to determine if an extension is on your cluster. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
3/6/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Justin Steinberg</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com"> jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>You will notice other problems with this approach such
as:<br>
<br>
CDR issues since CDR is not partition aware <br>
CTI issues <br>
AC issues with line state updates<br>
<br>
I think it would make life easier to use E164 numbers as the DN and use translation
patterns within each site to translate four digits to E164. <br>
<br>
Just my thoughts, and I do realize making this conversion would be a real pain.
:) <br>
<br>
Justin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
3/6/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ryan O'Connell</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com"> Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Fixed it</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>The fix was to change the MWI CSS to search the
translation Table instead of each sites local partition. And to change the MWI
notification in Unity back to "X" </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ryan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"
title="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
on behalf of Ryan O'Connell <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 3/6/2007 3:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"
title="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] MWI with
overlapping numbers <br>
</span></font><br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hey all,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>I'm stuck on this one. Here is the scenario.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>IPT customer, with lots of phones. They are
using a Centralized model where CallManger and Unity are at the head office
providing services for head office and all branch locations. This is a big
customer and DN overlapp is a real issue so they decided they wanted to go 4 digit
dialing within a given site, and 10 digit dialing between sites. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>No problem</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ul type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I setup each location with a
different <sitename>Oncluster Partition and added 4 digit DN's to
these partitions. </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>phones can dial each other
using 4 digits within a site </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>when they dial another site the
must dial 11 digits. example to dial <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City>
they dial 917808885180 </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A translation pattern is used
to strip the pattern and search the correct sites partition then
strip the 91780888 off the number leaving 5180 </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For centralized voicemail, I
used different "VoiceMailProfiles" to prefix the numbers going
into Unity so when someone from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City>
dials into Unity 780888 is prefixed to the 5180 putting them into the
correct mailbox. </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To light MWI lamps, I had to
turn Multitenant Mode on so that VM Ports can see the translations created
and all works fine </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>HERE is the problem</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When someone has the same
last 4 digit dn's at different sites, MWI only works for the site
who's partition comes first in the MWI CSS </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Example <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Calgary</st1:place></st1:City>
phone with DN 4035555180 and an Edmonton Phone 7808885180</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Unity mailbox are as follows <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Calgary</st1:place></st1:City> user is
4035555180 and the Edmonton User is 7808885180 </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>both message notification
feilds under each subscriber have been changed from the default X to 5180
because the actual extension is only 4 digits not 10 (I THINK
HERE IS MY PROBLEM BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT) </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I leave a message for the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Edmonton</st1:place></st1:City> user </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>MWI outbound ports use the
Translation pattern to translate 7808885180 to 5180 in the edmOnCluster partition.
And tell the phone to dial the lamp code </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The MWI-ON CSS has partitions
in the order of cgyOncluster - then edmOncluster. It doesn't know better
it just matches 5180 to the cgyOncluster and the lamp turns on. </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>I know you may need a decoder ring to understand
this email, but any help is appreciated</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ryno</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>kevin k<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:09
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] building
scalable dial plan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>new to voip. reading and reading.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>situation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>central ccm cluster.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>i have over 200 sites.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>5 sites - voip<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>rest centrex + key system<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>the debate is what to do with dial plan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>users at each site are used and fond of using 4 digit dn internally.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>but looking ahead 4 digit dn will not suffice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>can you experts out there, suggest how to give 4 digit dn internally
and 10 digit outside of the site, inter-site.????<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>or any thought?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>i appreciate any comment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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