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<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>...there's no such thing as a bad timbit...<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jason.aarons@us.didata.com
href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com">Jason Aarons (US)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=moody@arizona.edu
href="mailto:moody@arizona.edu">Walt Moody</A> ; <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Area Code vs
NXX Conflict</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You would have to get a list of NPA-XXXs for that CO and expand
the<BR>route pattern. I've done this for TEHO (Tail End Hop Off)
routing,<BR>Atlanta had hundreds of NPA-XXXs...headache to keep up
with..<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A><BR>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
On Behalf Of Walt Moody<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:19 PM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] Area Code vs NXX Conflict<BR><BR>Brian,<BR><BR>I'm aware of
the potential for future conflicts. Right now, the only<BR>conflict is
623. If at some far in the future date we have PRIs in<BR>928, and 928
is in conflict, we'll have to deal with it.<BR><BR>Lelio,<BR><BR>Interdigit
time outs could be a problem, but the more pressing problem <BR>is
routes. How do you tell 623[2-9]XXXXXX to go to the PSTN trunks
in<BR>Phoenix, and 623[2-9]XXX to go to Tucson's PSTN trunks? There
doesn't<BR>seem to be a way to build a conflict table with different routing
for<BR>seven digits versus ten.<BR><BR>-walt<BR><BR>Brian Prentiss
wrote:<BR>> The thing is with the first option here, is that potentially
you would<BR><BR>> have a similiar situation with the other area codes at
some point, as <BR>> the population growth forces more NXX assignments in
the 520 area<BR>code. <BR>> Also, as people wait for that interdigit
timeout, they might be<BR>thinking <BR>> "did it go through?" and that
might be a bit of a challenge support<BR>wise.<BR>> <BR>> Are you
planning on doing the same with the 928 area code that is in<BR>the <BR>>
other part of the state?<BR>> <BR>> Regards,<BR>> Brian<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> On 5/9/07, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A><BR><<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>> <BR>>
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> If you can live with
interdigit timeout, then you should be
able<BR>to<BR>> program things so that you can dial
either number and get through.<BR>> Users will have
to wait 10 seconds (or whatever your parameter
is<BR>> configured for) before 7 digit calls are
placed -or- if I'm not<BR>> mistaken, they can
press # to complete the dialing process (you<BR>>
might need an extra route pattern with the # at the end though
as<BR>>
well).<BR>> <BR>>
Other than that, if you are looking to be able to dial a 7
digit<BR>and<BR>> 10 digit call with the same
beginning three digits and not have<BR>> interdigit
timeout at the end, I do not think you will be able
to<BR>do<BR>>
this.<BR>>
<BR>>
<BR>><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>--------<BR>>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>> Senior Analyst (CCS) *
University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G<BR>2W1<BR>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519)
767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>><BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>>
...there's no such thing as a bad timbit...<BR>>
<BR>> ----- Original
Message -----<BR>> From:
Walt Moody <<A
href="mailto:moody@arizona.edu">mailto:moody@arizona.edu</A>><BR>>
To: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:04
PM<BR>> Subject:
[cisco-voip] Area Code vs NXX Conflict<BR>>
<BR>>
<BR>> Here's the
setup:<BR>> <BR>> The
University of Arizona - in Tucson - uses seven digit<BR>dialing
for<BR>> both on Campus and
off Campus local calls. We do not use 9+<BR>or
any<BR>> other PBX "outside
access" codes. NANP long distance is 1+
10<BR>>
digits,<BR>> IDDD is
011+.<BR>> <BR>>
Except: When dialing from our Tucson Campus to our
Phoenix<BR>> Campus,
we<BR>> dial
602827XXXX. We do not use a "1" or any other
prefix<BR>digit<BR>> to
when<BR>> we dial a "free"
or on-net call.<BR>>
<BR>> Still with
me? OK, try this: We want to set up our
dial<BR>plans<BR>> so
that<BR>> we can use 10
digits to call from the Tucson Campus
to<BR>anywhere<BR>> in
the<BR>> Phoenix rate
center, which consists of Area Codes 480,
602,<BR>and<BR>>
623.<BR>> That's easy
enough to do, except (there's that word again)
623<BR>> is
both<BR>> an Area Code in
Phoenix and an NXX in Tucson.<BR>>
<BR>> I need to find a way
to tell the difference between,
for<BR>> example,
the<BR>> dialed digits
(623) 555-1212 and 623-5551 and route the
10<BR>digit<BR>>
"623"<BR>> numbers to our
PRIs in Phoenix and the 7 digit "623" numbers<BR>to
the<BR>> local Tucson
PRIs.<BR>> <BR>> Prefix
digits are not an option -- there are several PBXs
in<BR>>
addition<BR>> to the
CallManagers that are part of the University's
voice<BR>>
services,<BR>> and no real
good way to change them from their current dial<BR>plans.<BR>>
<BR>> Ideas,
anyone?<BR>> <BR>>
Thanks,<BR>> <BR>>
-walt<BR>>
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