My thought was to do an install on a new server for the 5.1 publisher node w/new IP Address and restore the DMA data file onto that, thereby not even touching the 4.1 publisher (other than running DMA). Would also leave 1 subscriber node from the 
4.1 cluster alone, and upgrade the others and point them to the new 5.1 pub. Just not sure what would happen having two clusters with publishers having the same host name (maybe no problem?)<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 5/10/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Matthew Saskin</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:matt@saskin.net">matt@saskin.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
How do you intend to create a publisher in the &quot;old&quot; cluster once you<br>split them?<br><br>In theory the subscribers will keep chugging along with some end-user<br>loss of features...well, and the lack of ability to make configuration
<br>changes.<br><br>-matt<br><br>Ed Leatherman wrote:<br>&gt; Related question, and I think the answer is also probably no but want<br>&gt; to verify...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; When upgrading from ccm 4.1 to 5, would it be possible to change the
<br>&gt; host name of the primary node in the 5.0 cluster after loading the DMA<br>&gt; data but prior to adding any subscriber nodes?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trying to come up with a way to upgrade our system to 5 but leave 2<br>
&gt; nodes in the old cluster active to operate the call center users and<br>&gt; IPCCX - or at least determine if its feasible. so basically to split<br>&gt; the cluster up.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 5/10/07, *Ahmed Elnagar* &lt;
<a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a><br>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:aelnagar@act-eg.com">aelnagar@act-eg.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dont even try it you will break your CM replication and will go
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; through alot of very strange problems.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks and Best Regards<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ahmed A. Elnagar<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Network Field Engineer<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
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</a>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *From:* <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Matt<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slaga (US)<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Sent:* Wed 09-May-07 11:05 PM<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *To:* Ryan Ratliff; Jason Aarons (US)
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Cc:* <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Changing 
4.1(3) hostname article on CCO?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If the customer really pushes you, create a DNS C-name record.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:58 PM<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: Jason Aarons (US)<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Changing 4.1(3) hostname article on CCO?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No way, no how.<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The only time you can change the hostname of a CM server is before<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; you install CallManager on it.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Ryan<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On May 9, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Jason Aarons ((US)) wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#39;m trying to find a reference about server hostname changes for<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; production CallManager 4.1, I recall it&#39;s not advised but can&#39;t find<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a article on <a href="http://cisco.com">
cisco.com</a> &lt;<a href="http://cisco.com">http://cisco.com</a>&gt; stating this -jason<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jason Aarons<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Consultant<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.dimensiondata.com/na">
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