Just a thought here....Can you check on your CCM 4.1 server which is working properly and see whether the CCM service parameter 'BRQ enabled' is set to true? By default, this parameter is false. Possibly, this has been changed to true on
4.1 but not on 4.2<br><br>Justin<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/18/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Djokic Sinisa</b> <<a href="mailto:sdjokic@mds.co.yu">sdjokic@mds.co.yu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">o.k..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">thanx mladen..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">well, fast start is not enabled.. as in
CCM 4.1..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">MTP check box is not checked as well.. as
in CCM 4.1..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">two configs on both ccms are exactly the
same..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">to tell you the truth, i was just trying
to replicate the situation a.s.a.p. ( i haven't got time to test it with
IOS etc. ) since this one is working just fine..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">so, i didn't involved in deeper
troubleshooting for now..it looks like i'll have to..</span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">as i said..if it's not a bug, it
must been some media communication differencies in two ccm versions ( ili je
kolega u labu nesto uradio sto jos ne mogu da dokucim - </span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> )..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">anyway i'll doublecheck everything
again and proceed with further testing and let you know as soon as find
time to do it..</span></font></p><span class="q">
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">thanx..</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">regards..</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Mladen Milanovic
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 18, 2007 2:36 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Djokic Sinisa; Ryan Ratliff<span class="q"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br></span>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] ccm4.2
video over intercluster trunk issues !!!</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Sinisa,</span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">what do you have in the CCM traces. There
should be the reason why calls are failing. Also, do you have MTP check box
"checked" on the H.323 GK controled trunk</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Do you have any debugging on GNU. If not,
put Cisco IOS router and make another testing with debugging turned on.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">If call fails because of codec mismatch
you should see that in the h.323 logs. H.245 negotiation will failand you will
have description. Also, you may put a ethereal and capture the packeks.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Also, double check do you have fast start
enable on the CCM 4.2. I think that this is a default for 4.2(1). Mabye GNU has
a trouble in Media Negotiation process with the fast start. I am not sure but I
think that fast start is enabled on the CCM 4.2 by default. Try to disable it
and make testing and capture the logs.</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 18, 2007 1:50 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Ryan Ratliff'<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] ccm4.2
video over intercluster trunk issues !!!</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">thanx ryan..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">i agree with you..that's what
i'm thinking also..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">the problem is there shouldn't be any
codec mismatch etc..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">i have two separate systems – ccm4.1
and ccm4.2, which are configured identically..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">both using the same gatekeeper..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">one of them works – ccm4.1..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">another doesn't – ccm4.2..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">all the device pools use g711 codec..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">so, that's the reason i was asking
have anybody experienced something like that ( maybe it's a bug ) or
something..</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">thanx..</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">regards..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rratliff@cisco.com</a>] <br>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 6:15 PM<br>
To: Djokic Sinisa<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ccm4.2 video over intercluster trunk issues !!!</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">When a call is dropped as soon as it goes to a connected state
this </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">usually indicates a codec mismatch, or some other media
establishment </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">error.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The fact that the call connects with no video when you use the
MRGL </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">tells me that either an MTP or transcoder is being invoked for
that </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">call. Since we have no MTP or Transcoders that support video,
you </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">get audio only.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">You can verify this by looking at the Perfmon counters in CCM, by
</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">hitting the IP phone's web page and looking at the active RTP
stream </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(when the audio only call is up) to see the IP address it is
sending </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">RTP to, or by examining the CCM trace.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-Ryan</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On May 17, 2007, at 4:01 AM, Djokic Sinisa wrote:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">hi to all..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">has anybody experienced the following problem:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">ccm4.1(3) – we have gatekeeper configured on ccm and
intercluster </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">trunk whis is controlled via that gatekeeper ( GNU )..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">there is also a route pattern for certain video calls to go from
CCM </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">side over that intercluster trunk to TANDBERG video terminal (
which </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">is registred to the same GNU gatekeeper )..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">the phone and the intercluster trunk are in the same device pool </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">( g711 )..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">when user ( with IP phone and VTA ) makes a call to that
video </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">number and succesfull video call is established..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">no media resource group list are used at all..</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">ccm4.2(1) - the same setup as before is copied to the new CCM 4.2
in </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">everything is the same ( including the same gatekeeper ) but it </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">doesn't work..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">there are two things..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">if we put that device pool ( the one we're using ) uses
media </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">resource group list a call is established but without video..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">if we don't put that device pool ( the one we're using )
uses media </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">resource group list a call is droped as soon it is established..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">does anybody have an idea about this strange behaviour..</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">is there something we should know about CCM4.2 or is it u bug..</span></font></p>
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