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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Am I the only one that has had problems with
DHCP leases and kicking phones offline during the DHCP change?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had a 3 day lease and each day I would
get complains of phone briefly not working. Figured out it was the lease expiring
and changed it to a longer lease (infinite) ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:46
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Matt Slaga (US); Ed
Leatherman; ciscovoip<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] DHCP
Behavior</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>But the phone has the IP address of the DHCP server - so it will try to
communicate directly. Unless the scope or server is stopped.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Ok, maybe two minutes is a bit harsh, 5 minutes should be ok. we did
this on a network of about 7500 and it was not a problem over the 5 days in
order to let them old leases expire.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>As they get to the new lease from the new DHCP server they get the
longer lease.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:PlaceName> * <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <br>
"<st1:City w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:City> buffalo <st1:City w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:City>
buffalo buffalo buffalo <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:place></st1:City>
buffalo." WJR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" title="Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com">Matt
Slaga (US)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" title="lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</a> ; <a
href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com" title="ealeatherman@gmail.com">Ed
Leatherman</a> ; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">ciscovoip</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, June 07,
2007 9:39 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: [cisco-voip]
DHCP Behavior<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If you are not
changing IP networks, then you can leave them the way they are and let them
change DHCP servers on their own. If you set it to 1 minute, every phone
will be requesting a new address every 30 seconds which would have a negative
impact on users.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Let them migrate on
their own over a few days. The phones don’t care what the dhcp server is,
as long as one responds.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:35
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Ed Leatherman; ciscovoip<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] DHCP
Behavior<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I would set the lease time to about 2 minutes for a migration like
this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Typically, lease renewals happen 1/2 way through the lease time.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>The new DHCP server should ping the address before it assigns it, but
you might get IP address conflicts. In that case, the phone reboots and tries
to get a new address.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guelph</st1:PlaceName> * <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Guelph</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">N1G 2W1</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <br>
"<st1:City w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:City> buffalo <st1:City w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:City>
buffalo buffalo buffalo <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:place></st1:City>
buffalo." WJR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com" title="ealeatherman@gmail.com">Ed
Leatherman</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">ciscovoip</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, June 07,
2007 9:31 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [cisco-voip] DHCP
Behavior<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm getting ready to start migrating ip phones off of the DHCP service
on our callmanager to a DHCP appliance (infoblox). I've got the lease timer
down to 1 hour now on my first set of phones, my next step is going to be to
change the ip helper-address on the routers and deactivate the scope in DHCP on
the windows box. <br>
<br>
How do the phones behave when they try to renew and their original DHCP server
isnt there? Do i need to reset all of them, or will they find the new server on
their own? <br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
Ed Leatherman<br>
Senior Voice Engineer<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">West Virginia</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
Telecommunications and Network Operations <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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