<div>upgrade ease. no java issues. BLF/Mobility/presence.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bill Simon</b> <<a href="mailto:bills@psu.edu">bills@psu.edu</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Yeah, just a WAG but I'd suspect the DB, not the web server.<br><br>CCM 4.x remains, in my opinion, the best out there. Why are you all
<br>moving to the higher versions, anyway? Just for SIP endpoints?<br><br><br>Paul Choi wrote:<br>> Linux is just an OS. What people put on top of it is<br>> largely their choice. If Cisco installed wine and ran<br>
> IIS on top of that for their web server, then that<br>> would likely run slowly.<br>><br>> I am not informed on the Linux-based CCM boxen but I'd<br>> certainly hope that Cisco is using apache to serve its
<br>> webpages. I've heard that the DB is Informix or<br>> something like that.<br>><br>> My point being, it doesn't matter what OS you are<br>> using - if you put a slow application on it, it'll
<br>> still run slow no matter what you do to it.<br>><br>> Paul<br>><br>> --- Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> So, I am curious why all of us are putting up with
<br>>> this.<br>>><br>>> For years we were all told that Linux was superior,<br>>> that Linux was how<br>>> a real web server should function...<br>>><br>>> Now, we have CCM 5 and CCM 6... and the web server
<br>>> performance, is,<br>>> er, well, how do we put this...<br>>><br>>> Here we go. It is far worse than anything Microsoft<br>>> has ever released.<br>>> I think Microsoft BOB would be a better web server
<br>>> than whatever crap<br>>> is on the backend of this RedHat monstrosity.<br>>><br>>> In CallManger 4.3, using Microsoft WINDOWS(!!!!!!)<br>>> IIS and Cisco<br>>> Tomcat, I can scream through all of the web pages;
<br>>> do DB reads in<br>>> nanoseconds; do DB inserts almost as quick, and I<br>>> have never seen a<br>>> message on my web browser saying, 'Loading, Please<br>>> Wait'<br>>><br>
>> I mean, seriously, this is godawful slow.<br>>><br>>> I just installed CCM5.1.3 on an HP 7845, 4GB of RAM,<br>>> dual dual core<br>>> Xeons... and all I see at every mouse click is<br>>> 'Loading, Please
<br>>> Wait'..<br>>><br>>> Is Cisco punishing us for something? Did we offend<br>>> them in some way? I<br>>> am at a point where I am wondering if I should tell<br>>> customers about
<br>>> these performance issues prior to picking a version<br>>> ('if you want to<br>>> be able to administer this and not slash your<br>>> wrists, waiting for the<br>>> home page to load, you may want to go with
4.3...')<br>>> because I am tired<br>>> of hearing about it afterwards...<br>>><br>>> Seriously guys, I mean, this pretty much kills<br>>> whatever argument you<br>>> Linux freaks had that this was better than
<br>>> Windows... add the whole<br>>> SFTP requirement, and you can see why the Microsoft<br>>> side won this<br>>> argument...<br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list
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