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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Actually due to a difference between who this customer uses for
Server network vs. Phone network; they have been using Sonicwall for normal VPN
connectivity, which I personally do not like based on personal experience. But
the setup will be as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>87x router or ASA </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>ß</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-DSL or Cable-</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>à</span><span
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INTERNET </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>ß</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>---PRI/Internet
connection--</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>à</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>2811 router</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>ß</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Phone LAN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jerky
[mailto:lists@jerkys.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Linsemier, Matthew<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Curt Shaffer; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Home user<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>This has been kicked around for a while since we moved to
CallManager but not much thought has been given to it. I'm trying to understand
how your hardware is setup. How would it look, similar to one of these?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>87x router <---DSL or Cable---> INTERNET <--T1
connection---> 3845 <--Ethernet--> LAN<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>or<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>87x router <---DSL or Cable---> INTERNET <--T1
connection---> 3845 <---> ASA or PIX Firewall <--Ethernet--> LAN<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Is the 3800 used for all your firewalling needs in lieu of
something like an ASA or PIX? Sonicwall's are currently in place and
haven't worked very well for the remote users it was tested with. The
Sonicwalls we have don't have anything similar to what the 871's seem to have
in regards to vlans and packet tagging. We would probably kick the Sonicwalls
out if something else would work better.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Linsemier, Matthew wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>We currently have about 40 production remote home
teleworkers that have been deployed using Cisco 871/877 wireless routers and a
7960 phones. We are using a Cisco 3845 series router at the head-end so
that we can control QoS tagging on the egress / ingress points of both sides of
the VPN tunnel. We are using a phase 2 DMVPN solution dual-homed to two
sites to provide secure redundant connectivity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>It took me a bit to tweak my router configurations (I
started on Cisco 831/837 routers) to get the results that we wanted, but all
and all our users are happy. There is the occasional jitter and packet
loss (it is the Internet mind you) but g.729 is working quite well coupled with
business cable and DSL services.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Matt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [<a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Curt Shaffer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2007 6:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Home user<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
was wondering want everyone out there is using for the situation where you have
someone on your CCM or CCME that has 1 phone at a home office. Something tells
me an ASA is overkill and I haven’t found solid information that any of the 87x
routers support tagging QoS of packets going through the VPN tunnel. We would
obviously like to have QoS in place even though it’s not respected at their ISP
just to make sure the VPN/Voice packets are leaving their routers first as a
best effort to get some quality. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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