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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't worry about it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>66 is a type of punch down, as is 110 and BIX. Each
has their advantages, 66 is really old and is still used in the telecom industry
(Bells, etc) and as far as I know 110 was invented so companies didn't have to
pay royalties to NORDX or whomever owns the BIX patent/trademark. As far as
block size is concerned, each system has their own standar sizes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>66 <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/66_block">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/66_block</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BIX <A
href="http://www.dotfrom.com/image/32/6717/P7040008.JPG">http://www.dotfrom.com/image/32/6717/P7040008.JPG</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>110 <A
href="http://www.smarthomepro.com/images/865150_punch_step2_big.gif">http://www.smarthomepro.com/images/865150_punch_step2_big.gif</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I mention 25 pair, because that is a
standard size in telecom wiring, BIX blocks are also 25 pairs. The RJ21 is also
25 pair, the 25th pair is not used with the VG224.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having your VG224s in a central location is
the way to go. Power, facilities, etc. make more sense that way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>In my opinion, I would go with
cross-connects as needed. Create another punchdown with your VG224 pairs and
then go from there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled
as good as bacon.”<BR>Doug Larson</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d4rkf1br@gmail.com href="mailto:d4rkf1br@gmail.com">d4rk f1br</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lelio@uoguelph.ca
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VG224
RJ-21 Cable ?</DIV>
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<DIV>Well I guess I am about to admit just how little I know about this
stuff. You say 25 pair, but I thought the VG224 only supported 24 lines
which would mean 24 pair right?</DIV>
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<DIV>As for the block sizes I am not sure, does a 66 block represent 66 pair
or 66 individual wires so only 33 pair?</DIV>
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<DIV>What I have here at this building is three access closets. In each
closet there is a panel labelled (100 pair cross connect) which has 50 RJ45
outlets if you will. This 100 pair cross connect panel then goes up to
the server room and terminates at what I believe is a 110 block. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The point of this is probably obvious to anyone experienced in this
stuff. Each desk has three Cat6 runs. The three runs terminate in
the access closet as well of course. I have two choices at this point, I
can use a patch cord to patch into the switch or into one of these cross
connect ports. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The cross connect ports are for either fax machines or the call center
phones which are legacy pbx phones.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So then up in the server room at the other side of the cross connect we
have to jumper that particular pair to either the PBX or to what ever it
is I need to get it connected to the VG224.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have two VG224's. I wish I had three now because then I would
just put one VG224 in each wiring closet and have the RJ21 terminate into a
panel that can take RJ45 patch cables as well. This would have allowed
me to simply patch from the port going to the desk, to a port on the panel
connected to the RJ21 and thus the VG224 and avoid this whole cross connect
crap. But since I only have two VG224's and three closets I have to
centrally located the VG224's and utilize this cross connect from the closets.
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<DIV>I just don't know alot about wiring and stuff. Sad thing is I have
done it all before as needed. Usually just emergency basis type stuff
when you needed something in a pinch and couldn't get the contractor or
someone onsite fast enough. I have never done any of it completely from
scratch though so I don't claim to be an expert on any of it. </DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Jan 5, 2008 12:47 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What exactly are you looking for? 66 block? BIX
block? 110?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Punching down 25 pair onto one of your existing
blocks and then cross connecting shouldn't take that much time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You could probably buy a block with an rj21
connector so you buy a cable with both ends completed, but then you have to
be exact on your measurements.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>"Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables
smelled as good as bacon."<BR>Doug Larson</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=d4rkf1ber@gmail.com href="mailto:d4rkf1ber@gmail.com"
target=_blank>d4rk f1br</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [cisco-voip] Cisco VG224
RJ-21 Cable ?</DIV>
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<DIV>Anyone know of a source which sales the RJ-21 cable for a VG224 that
is already terminated to a block?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just opened up my VG224's to start setting them up at the new
building and realized it did not come with the RJ-21 cables. And I
am suppose to have this up before next weekend so I need to save time as
much as possible with all that I have to do between now and then.
:-( </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have googled myself to sleep trying to find something that is
already terminated to a block. Looks like I am going to have to
jumper from one block were the ports for faxes terminate to another block
which will be connected to the VG224 via the RJ21. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If anyone has ordered anything recently similiar to what I am looking
for please let me know. I need to order something ASAP.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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