Ryan,<br><br>Although I do agree with the support side it is really hard to tell a customer who has been on an Avaya PBX for 15 to 20 years that they need to upgrade in 4-5 because it is no longer supported. Normally that does not turn into a very fun meeting.
<br><br>Just my .02<br>Craig<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 10, 2008 8:32 AM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="">If you look at the release schedule we've got for CUCM 4-5 years is forever. Not that I think you'll see an EOL announcement for 5.1 any time soon but we have to get these out now so that we can stop supporting them down the road. It's just part of the product's life cycle and I for one am ecstatic that they (the business unit that owns CUCM) are doing it right now. For a long time we were supporting everything
3.0 and later which was a nightmare.<div><br><div> <p style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">
-Ryan</font></p> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:</div><br><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Will the .1 versions have a bit more life out of them? Granted 5 was the first foree into the linux world, but with 6 and 7 they should be stable enough to be maintained for a relatively long period no?
</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div>----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228);">
<b>From:</b><span> </span><a title="rratliff@cisco.com" href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">Ryan Ratliff</a></div><div><b>To:</b><span> </span><a title="cmstaffin@gmail.com" href="mailto:cmstaffin@gmail.com" target="_blank">
Craig Staffin</a></div><div><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a title="lelio@uoguelph.ca" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">Lelio Fulgenzi</a><span> </span>;<span> </span><a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
Cisco VoIPoE List</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:10 AM</div><div><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Fw: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Version
5.0</div><div><br></div>I can't imagine anyone still running 5.0 in production today, much less 4 years from now.<div><br><div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font face="Helvetica" size="3">-Ryan</font></div></div><br><div>
<div>On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Craig Staffin wrote:</div><br>Yeah definatly a little surprised<br><br>Although 5 was not the most stable version so my guess is that they are pushing people to upgrade to 5.1 or 6 so that they are on a more stable platform
<br><br>Craig<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 9, 2008 6:56 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Is anyone else surprised by this EOL announcement? It sounded like they<br>EOL'ed 4.1 b/c of Windows 2000, so I was under the impression that with the<br>linux platform they wouldn't have to EOL these things so quickly.
<span> </span><br><br>Granted, everyone is "saying" that upgrades are going to be easier, but<br>there are still some wrinkles to iron out from the sounds of it. And really,<br>only three and a half years away from the EOL announcement the product
<span> </span><br>becomes end of support? According to the doc, v5 was released in March 17,<br>2006 - but really - who's gonna install it within a year on a production<br>network? so really, you only get 4 years out of it and you are forced to
<span> </span><br>upgrade.<br><br>I'm not sure I'm buying into this practice.<br><br>I think you should be able to run a telephone system for longer than 3 -4<br>years without being forced to upgrade.<br><br>my two cents.
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<br>Version 5.0<br><br><br>> Message Type : End-of-sales/ End-of-life announcement<br>><span> </span><br>> Cisco announces the end-of-sale date for Cisco Unified Communications<br>> Manager Version 5.0.<br>> The last day to order the affected product(s) is June 30, 2008. Customers
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