<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If you look at the release schedule we've got for CUCM 4-5 years is forever. Not that I think you'll see an EOL announcement for 5.1 any time soon but we have to get these out now so that we can stop supporting them down the road. It's just part of the product's life cycle and I for one am ecstatic that they (the business unit that owns CUCM) are doing it right now. For a long time we were supporting everything 3.0 and later which was a nightmare.<div><br><div> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">-Ryan</font></p> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Will the .1 versions have a bit more life out of them? Granted 5 was the first foree into the linux world, but with 6 and 7 they should be stable enough to be maintained for a relatively long period no?</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rratliff@cisco.com" href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">Ryan Ratliff</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="cmstaffin@gmail.com" href="mailto:cmstaffin@gmail.com">Craig Staffin</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lelio@uoguelph.ca" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">Cisco VoIPoE List</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:10 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Fw: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Version 5.0</div><div><br></div>I can't imagine anyone still running 5.0 in production today, much less 4 years from now.<div><br><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">-Ryan</font></div></div><br><div><div>On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Craig Staffin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Yeah definatly a little surprised<br><br>Although 5 was not the most stable version so my guess is that they are pushing people to upgrade to 5.1 or 6 so that they are on a more stable platform<br><br>Craig<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 9, 2008 6:56 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; ">Is anyone else surprised by this EOL announcement? It sounded like they<br>EOL'ed 4.1 b/c of Windows 2000, so I was under the impression that with the<br>linux platform they wouldn't have to EOL these things so quickly.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Granted, everyone is "saying" that upgrades are going to be easier, but<br>there are still some wrinkles to iron out from the sounds of it. And really,<br>only three and a half years away from the EOL announcement the product<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>becomes end of support? According to the doc, v5 was released in March 17,<br>2006 - but really - who's gonna install it within a year on a production<br>network? so really, you only get 4 years out of it and you are forced to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>upgrade.<br><br>I'm not sure I'm buying into this practice.<br><br>I think you should be able to run a telephone system for longer than 3 -4<br>years without being forced to upgrade.<br><br>my two cents.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled<br>as good as bacon."<br>Doug Larson<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>From: "Cisco Product Alert Tool" <<a href="mailto:cco-pat-bouncehandler@external.cisco.com">cco-pat-bouncehandler@external.cisco.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:44 PM<br>Subject: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified Communications Manager<br>Version 5.0<br><br><br>> Message Type : End-of-sales/ End-of-life announcement<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Cisco announces the end-of-sale date for Cisco Unified Communications<br>> Manager Version 5.0.<br>> The last day to order the affected product(s) is June 30, 2008. Customers<br>> with active service<br>> contracts will continue to receive support from the Cisco Technical<br>> Assistance Center (TAC) as<br>> shown in Table 1 of the EoL bulletin.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> For more details, refer to:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/prod_eol_notice0900aecd807329a8.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/prod_eol_notice0900aecd807329a8.html</a><br>><br>> This email has been sent to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>.<br>> You are receiving this notice because you subscribed to the Cisco Product<br>> Alert Tool (PAT) and created the following profile(s):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ac-one<br>><br>> Subscribe/unsubscribe instructions :<br>> If you choose not to receive these notices, or if you would like to make<br>> changes to your notification profile, please go to:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://tools.cisco.com/Support/PAT/do/ViewMyProfiles.do?local=en" target="_blank">http://tools.cisco.com/Support/PAT/do/ViewMyProfiles.do?local=en</a><br>><br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Craig Staffin<br><a href="mailto:Craig@staffin.org">Craig@staffin.org</a><br>(H) 262-437-7313<br>(C) 262-613-6003<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">cisco-voip mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></div></div><br></div></blockquote></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br></div></body></html>