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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>cool...i guess people like Berbee could use this on
their ip speakers as well.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cmstaffin@gmail.com href="mailto:cmstaffin@gmail.com">Craig
Staffin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pwalenta@wi.rr.com
href="mailto:pwalenta@wi.rr.com">Philip Walenta</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=lelio@uoguelph.ca
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">Lelio Fulgenzi</A> ; <A
title=rkulagow@gmail.com href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com">Robert
Kulagowski</A> ; <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Video
Conferencing ? CM 4.1(3)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Actually CDP was more or less made into a standard <BR><BR>It
is LLDP-MED <BR><BR><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLDP-MED">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLDP-MED</A><BR><BR>If
I remember correctly the new version of cisco phones support this. SO in
other words you could use HP switches at the edge and Cisco in the middle and
still have separate Voice and Data VLANS and no one is non the wiser (except
the accountants paying the bills)<BR><BR>Craig<BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Jan 30, 2008 6:34 PM, Philip Walenta <<A
href="mailto:pwalenta@wi.rr.com">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Well
it's not that we want to get around CDP. We've done a good job
of<BR>staying "industry standard" where possible, and if there's a standard
for<BR>this we'd prefer to use it.<BR><BR>Personally speaking I'd prefer to
license CDP now, and deal with a standard<BR>later simply because CDP also
helps set QoS parameters nicely.<BR>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:<A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>]<BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Wj3C7c>Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:27 PM<BR>To: Philip
Walenta; 'Robert Kulagowski'; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] Video Conferencing ? CM 4.1(3)<BR><BR>802.3af is the inline
power standard...that might be one way, but not sure<BR>how.<BR><BR>802.1x
is more likely the solution, which authenticates a user and allows<BR>them
on a particular VLAN.<BR><BR>That would be a novel way around
CDP.<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>----<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>"Life
expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled<BR>as
good as bacon."<BR>Doug Larson<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Philip Walenta" <<A
href="mailto:pwalenta@wi.rr.com">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</A>><BR>To: "'Lelio
Fulgenzi'" <<A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>;
"'Robert Kulagowski'"<BR><<A
href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com">rkulagow@gmail.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:18 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Video
Conferencing ? CM 4.1(3)<BR><BR><BR>> I'm not sure if CDP is going to be
licensed, but I know we're working on a<BR>> way to do it via 802.x
standards (the appropriate standard escapes me at<BR>> the<BR>> moment
- it might be 802.3af).<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>
From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>]<BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:50 PM<BR>> To: Philip Walenta; 'Robert
Kulagowski'; <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Video Conferencing ? CM 4.1(3)<BR>><BR>>
Phil...any chance on Polycom licencing CDP from Cisco so I can slap
the<BR>> phone onto a port and have it configure voice VLANs
appropriately?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
----<BR>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University
of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519)
767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<BR>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>>
"Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables<BR>>
smelled<BR>> as good as bacon."<BR>> Doug
Larson<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From:
"Philip Walenta" <<A
href="mailto:pwalenta@wi.rr.com">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</A>><BR>> To:
"'Robert Kulagowski'" <<A
href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com">rkulagow@gmail.com</A>>;<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:32 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip]
Video Conferencing ? CM 4.1(3)<BR>><BR>><BR>>> I'll start by
saying that I work for Polycom...that being said..<BR>>><BR>>>
We do have a product that does allow control of the video unit from
a<BR>>> Cisco<BR>>> IP phone (it can control our SCCP based
devices or H.323/SIP devices).<BR>>><BR>>> Link here (sorry for
the product advertisment):<BR>>><BR>><BR><A
href="http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/video/video_conferencing_systems/desk"
target=_blank>http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/video/video_conferencing_systems/desk</A><BR>>>
top/video_control_app.html<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Now, as for
what folks usually do for overflow:<BR>>><BR>>> I've built
several scenarios for customers:<BR>>><BR>>> 1. MCU, IP
and ISDN attached, with GK control. The GK knows that the<BR>>>
MCU<BR>>> can "dial out" as a backup path.<BR>>> 2.
H.323/GK control, with Cisco IOS gateways (28XX or 38XX) and
attached<BR>>> PRI's using the new IOS ability to do H.323 to H.320
conversion.<BR>>><BR>>> Both work pretty well, the MCU variant
allows content, the Cisco one does<BR>>> not (support is coming from
what I understand).<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>>> From: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A><BR>>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>]
On Behalf Of Robert<BR>>> Kulagowski<BR>>> Sent: Wednesday,
January 30, 2008 2:38 PM<BR>>> To: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR>>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Video Conferencing ? CM
4.1(3)<BR>>><BR>>> Matthew Saskin wrote:<BR>>>> VT
Advantage is basically your only option if you want to
provide<BR>>>> video from the desktop IP phone. If you want
room-based solutions<BR>>>> they can integrate with CallManager in
multiple ways (as mentioned in<BR>>>> previous<BR>>>>
emails) but they are going to be dedicated units in a room (or on
a<BR>>>> crash cart, etc.)<BR>>>><BR>>>> As far
as providing overflow from IP to ISDN, I can't even think
how<BR>>>> to do that. The biggest thing standing in the way
is that you would<BR>>>> need to change the destination being
dialed from an IP address to a<BR>>>> phone number
:-\<BR>>><BR>>> Right; as I'm thinking about it now, the
gatekeeper knows that there's<BR>>> "x"<BR>>> amount of
bandwidth between the two locations; if the bandwidth request<BR>>>
is<BR>>> rejected then there should be _some_ way to do this though,
isn't there?<BR>>> Or<BR>>> do people just not place the call at
that point?<BR>>> That's how AAR in the voice world
works...<BR>>><BR>>> As far as the one-touch capability, I think
I should be able to create a<BR>>> service URL on the phone that does
an AXL call to determine who I'm<BR>>> currently talking to. I
can then have a widget that uses the video<BR>>> conferencing
equipment API to dial the call. I've already gotten it to<BR>>>
work<BR>>> manually using the Polycom telnet interface, so at this
point it's just a<BR>>> Small Matter of Programming.
:)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Craig Staffin<BR><A
href="mailto:Craig@staffin.org">Craig@staffin.org</A><BR>(H)
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