<div>believe it or not. that was a topic at CIPTUG this year. a lot depended on the size as to weather or not to do that.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 30, 2008 12:49 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">How many out there have actually installed a new cluster for the IPCCx installation so they don't have to go through the upgrades each time they upgrade callmanager?</font></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="svoll.voip@gmail.com" href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">Scott Voll</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="d4rkf1ber@gmail.com" href="mailto:d4rkf1ber@gmail.com" target="_blank">d4rk f1br</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> </div>
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<div>you have to upgrade IPCC at the same time as CM. see if you can get one more server out of the budget. ;-)</div>
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<div>Unity is just the TSP update.</div>
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<div>you should be OK with the licensing so long as you do a DMA out of CM 4.1 then do the import. this will convert your current phones / licensing over.</div>
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<div>if you like what you have... you may wait for CM 7.x. last I heard is that it will be OS independant. Meaning you can run windows or appliance.</div>
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<div>I find most of my info out at CIPTUG. Take with the CM BU (Wade) and I aslo told him that the IPCC upgrade with every CM upgrade is a problem. He seem to think a Version +1 should be a viable option but didn't know when they will get to it. Not in CM 6.x maybe 7.x.</div>
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<div>we also talked about how fast the new versions are coming out. Cisco is going to slow the releases. Currently they have been running new Version every 12 months and a minor 6 months after. they are going to change that to 18 months and 9 months. he heard our biggest issue is keeping the versions that are coming out stable.</div>
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<div>Based on the feed back at CIPTUG most users are waiting for CM 6.1 for there upgrade. only CM 5.x installs were new installs.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 30, 2008 12:27 PM, d4rk f1br <<a href="mailto:d4rkf1ber@gmail.com" target="_blank">d4rkf1ber@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Starting to 'look' at what all is involved with moving or upgrading to CM 6.0. Currently running CM 4.1(3) on two older MCS servers, just a publisher and subscriber. If the budget allows I am hoping to actually purchase new hardware for this and possibly run both versions in parrallel for testing and what not.</div>
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<div>Couple of things though I am concerned with is that I seem to recall hearing something about licensing on 6.0 for phones? Apparently Cisco has introduced some new licensing stuff with 6.0 that reminded me of unity licensing in a way.</div>
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<div>I suspect that by moving to 6.0 I would also have to look into Unity and IPCCX compatibility issues and the best way to address dealing with all things at once. If CM 6.0 requires IPCCX 6.0 and Unity ? well thats a pretty big deal and really makes upgrading a huge pain in the arse obviously. Its often difficult enough to upgrade one thing and deal with those repercussions for a while, but to have to do all together well thats just gonna suck. :-)</div>
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<div>To me upgrading to 6.0 is really not something I believe is worthwhile as I don't see what we are really going to gain from it. However I am a tad concerned about letting things age you know, both hardware and software. I do see some possible benefits and features in some of the newer versions of either IPCCX and Unity, but those typically say you need your CallManager to be a new version. So as long as I stay humming along with 4.x, which in itself may be sufficient I can't leverage some new feature I see available in one of the other products.</div>
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<div>And finally I guess I would have to ask does anyone know the latest news on 7.0 ? I have heard and read about release dates in early 2009, but obviously nothing is concrete of course. It does however leave the person like me wondering what to do of course. Even if I were to dedicate myself to saying yes I am going to move to 6.0 this year, well it would like not happen to Q3 or Q4 at which time we may very well be hearing about actual 7.0 release dates being only months away.</div>
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<div>Its sad that things have become what they are if you ask me. So many versions in so a relatively short time. Whats worst is the people on the fringes of things, the people who happen to hear about this release or that and so they question why we are "so far behind" on our callmanager versions, or who hear about an upcoming callmanager release and wonder when will we move to this or that. Its gotten to be about as bad as trying to keep up with Windows versions almost. Never thought the phone system would become like this. Is it the price you pay for innovation? And is there really all that much innovation to warrant it? Who knows..</div>
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