<div>Looking from VM only this is true. But when you look at UM</div>
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<div>Exchange = 1 or 2 servers</div>
<div>Unity + voice portal + Exchange = 3 servers.</div>
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<div>They currently have 1 Exchange server doing Email, voice portal, and UM. if they have problems they can add a second server, but thus far have not had issues. Where as with Unity and the voice portal you can't even do it with a single server.and UM for that matter.</div>
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<div>Don't get me wrong... I think Unity is more functional but because they didn't put VM into the budget thinking there old VM was going to work, and they already had the Exchange server / Cals it was really a no brainer.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 8, 2008 3:21 PM, Corbett Enders <<a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well, I'd guess that you need a box for Unity or a box for Exchange UM,<br>so that would be a wash.<br>
You'll need an Exchange license or a license for Unity... wash?<br>You'll need Exchange Enterprise CALs on top of the standard CAL (it is<br>an additive CAL now, you need both) or you get the CALs for Unity.<br>Wash?<br>
<br>So in the end, it boils down to functionality. And I have to think<br>Unity has more functionality from a pure VOICEMAIL system right now, but<br>it won't be long for Microsoft to catch up.<br><br>---------------<br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c"><br>If you have 800 - 1000 phone you shoul dhave multiple exchange servers<br>and<br>one dedicated to the UM role according to microsoft design guides. So<br>once<br>again if you add the price of the additional exchange server license and<br>
now<br>the additional x64 server hardware I bet you are not saving much money.<br><br>This does not take into account your specail state pricing.<br><br>On Feb 8, 2008 4:49 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>> well the School district loves Exchange for the voice portal vs the<br>press<br>> 1 for this that and the other thing. unless you have a second server<br>and<br>> unity 5.x which adds $$$ also. especially on a small SD size of<br>
800-1000<br>> phones. and the pricing between UM and VM licenses on Unity is huge.<br>><br>> Scott<br>><br>> PS> I use Unity 5.x UM personally ;-)<br>><br>> On Feb 8, 2008 1:33 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> > I completely agree with you. I also think that OCS will be a product<br>> > that is going to very good after a few years. The thing is I am<br>installing<br>> > these products today and must deploy the best solution for my<br>
customers and<br>> > a hacked together system that saves them 10% is not in my best<br>interest.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Feb 8, 2008 3:30 PM, Craig Staffin <<a href="mailto:craig@staffin.org">craig@staffin.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>> > > Voice Noob<br>> > ><br>> > > Keep in mind that exchange 07 unified messaging is version 1.<br>> > ><br>> > > Give it two years and see how much competition it can give to<br>
Unity.<br>> > > My guess the way its already going is Unity will be in trouble;<br>> > ><br>> > > Just my .02<br>> > > Craig<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:15 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>> > > > Not everyone has that. So once you purchase the correct exchange<br>> > > > CAL, and the MWI software it may not be that much more to just<br>purchase<br>> > > > Unity. I don't think Exchange 2007 can compare to Unity in the<br>
number or<br>> > > > features it has.<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:11 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>> > > > > School district..... SLA ..... State contract pricing......<br>Better<br>> > > > > pricing then Unity ;-)<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 1:10 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > > You have to purchase diffrent Exchange CAL's if you use the<br>
UM<br>> > > > > > role so it is going to cost you more $$$ for the correct<br>Exchange CAL.<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:52 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > What third party software are you using?<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:47 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > > > > > wrote:<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > I have it in production at one of our School Districts<br>but<br>> > > > > > > > with CM 5.1 not 6.x.<br>
> > > > > > > > The MWI doesn't work by default but with a 3rd party<br>vendor<br>> > > > > > > > their is software you load on exchange to get that<br>working.... But the<br>
> > > > > > > > negitive is that you have to enable it on a per box<br>basis.<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > Scott<br>> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:29 AM, Madziarczyk, Jonathan <<br>> > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a>> wrote:<br>> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > I'm about to start testing Exchange 2007's new SIP<br>> > > > > > > > > voicemail option in<br>> > > > > > > > > conjunction with CCM6.0 in the hopes of that becoming<br>
my<br>> > > > > > > > > new VM system<br>> > > > > > > > > (currently on CallXpress). Has anyone done this yet,<br>or<br>> > > > > > > > > have any<br>
> > > > > > > > > experience with this? I've heard there are some MWI<br>> > > > > > > > > issues, but that<br>> > > > > > > > > there are 3rd party products to help with that end.<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > > Thanks<br>> > > > > > > > > JM<br>> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________<br>
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