I have configure this as well. You are correct it is very simple.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 9, 2008 6:13 AM, Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:matt@saskin.net">matt@saskin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I can't speak to the base exchange side as my exchange admins do that,<br>but as for configuring the EXUM side and integrating with CallManager -<br>
it's a trivial operation. It took literally 30 minutes the first time<br>for me to get two EXUM servers configured and tied into callmanager in a<br>redundant fashion.<br><br>-matt<br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c"><br>Joel P wrote:<br>> I have also been approached by several customers who have shown interest in<br>> E2k7UM instead of upgrading to Unity 5. We have turned them away due to lack<br>> of experience installing it ourselves.<br>
> But they have taken it upon themselves to price it out and according to them<br>> it is more cost effective to use E2k7UM.<br>> I think M$ will begin to eat away at UnityUM and NortelUM share of the<br>> market in the next two years.<br>
> Time to renew my E2k7 Certs and take some follow up classes.<br>><br>> Joel P<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew Saskin<br>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:10 PM<br>> To: Scott Voll<br>> Cc: Corbett Enders; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Exchange 2007 SIP and CCM6.0<br>><br>> I'd like to hear everyone's views on Unity having more functions than<br>> Exchange UM. Personally, we migrated internally from Unity 4 to<br>
> Exchange 2007 UM and I think it blows Unity out of the water,<br>> hands-down...just my opinion ;)<br>><br>> From a cost perspective, regardless of any volume licensing discount if<br>> you already run Exchange for voicemail, the per user cost is less for<br>
> EXUM than Unity UM. Last I checked, Unity UM licenses list at $140 per<br>> user. List pricing for an Exchange enterprise CAL (for UM) is $36 more<br>> than a standard CAL, which is required for email anyhow. Hardware<br>
> requirements for all intents and purposes are the same, and actual cost<br>> for the server software is the same as well.<br>><br>> For MWI, the primary 3rd party product (geomant) costs something like<br>> $1000 for the application + $4.50/user without volume discounts, and<br>
> goes down to < $3/user if you're in the thousands of users range. The<br>> only downside that we have hit is that the Geomant application runs on a<br>> single server, so if that box goes down, MWI's stop functioning.<br>
><br>> -matt<br>><br>> Scott Voll wrote:<br>><br>>> Looking from VM only this is true. But when you look at UM<br>>><br>>> Exchange = 1 or 2 servers<br>>> Unity + voice portal + Exchange = 3 servers.<br>
>><br>>> They currently have 1 Exchange server doing Email, voice portal, and<br>>> UM. if they have problems they can add a second server, but thus far<br>>> have not had issues. Where as with Unity and the voice portal you<br>
>> can't even do it with a single server.and UM for that matter.<br>>><br>>> Don't get me wrong... I think Unity is more functional but because<br>>> they didn't put VM into the budget thinking there old VM was going to<br>
>> work, and they already had the Exchange server / Cals it was really a<br>>> no brainer.<br>>><br>>> Scott<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Feb 8, 2008 3:21 PM, Corbett Enders <<a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Well, I'd guess that you need a box for Unity or a box for<br>>> Exchange UM,<br>
>> so that would be a wash.<br>>> You'll need an Exchange license or a license for Unity... wash?<br>>> You'll need Exchange Enterprise CALs on top of the standard CAL (it is<br>>> an additive CAL now, you need both) or you get the CALs for Unity.<br>
>> Wash?<br>>><br>>> So in the end, it boils down to functionality. And I have to think<br>>> Unity has more functionality from a pure VOICEMAIL system right<br>>> now, but<br>
>> it won't be long for Microsoft to catch up.<br>>><br>>> ---------------<br>>> Message: 3<br>>> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:56:50 -0600<br>>> From: "Voice Noob" <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Exchange 2007 SIP and CCM6.0<br>>> To: "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> Cc: "Madziarczyk, Jonathan" <<a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a>>>,<br>
>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>>> Message-ID:<br>>><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:535625f70802081456n3e55c812j7ce3cb63fb0dca5d@mail.gmail.com">535625f70802081456n3e55c812j7ce3cb63fb0dca5d@mail.gmail.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:535625f70802081456n3e55c812j7ce3cb63fb0dca5d@mail.gmail.com">535625f70802081456n3e55c812j7ce3cb63fb0dca5d@mail.gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>>><br>>> If you have 800 - 1000 phone you shoul dhave multiple exchange servers<br>>> and<br>>> one dedicated to the UM role according to microsoft design guides. So<br>
>> once<br>>> again if you add the price of the additional exchange server<br>>> license and<br>>> now<br>>> the additional x64 server hardware I bet you are not saving much<br>
>> money.<br>>><br>>> This does not take into account your specail state pricing.<br>>><br>>> On Feb 8, 2008 4:49 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> > well the School district loves Exchange for the voice portal vs the<br>>> press<br>
>> > 1 for this that and the other thing. unless you have a second<br>>> server<br>>> and<br>>> > unity 5.x which adds $$$ also. especially on a small SD size of<br>>> 800-1000<br>
>> > phones. and the pricing between UM and VM licenses on Unity is<br>>> huge.<br>>> ><br>>> > Scott<br>>> ><br>>> > PS> I use Unity 5.x UM personally ;-)<br>
>> ><br>>> > On Feb 8, 2008 1:33 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>>> > > I completely agree with you. I also think that OCS will be a<br>>> product<br>>> > > that is going to very good after a few years. The thing is I am<br>
>> installing<br>>> > > these products today and must deploy the best solution for my<br>>> customers and<br>>> > > a hacked together system that saves them 10% is not in my best<br>
>> interest.<br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:30 PM, Craig Staffin <<a href="mailto:craig@staffin.org">craig@staffin.org</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:craig@staffin.org">craig@staffin.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>>> > > > Voice Noob<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Keep in mind that exchange 07 unified messaging is version 1.<br>>> > > ><br>
>> > > > Give it two years and see how much competition it can give to<br>>> Unity.<br>>> > > > My guess the way its already going is Unity will be in trouble;<br>>> > > ><br>
>> > > > Just my .02<br>>> > > > Craig<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:15 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > > Not everyone has that. So once you purchase the correct<br>
>> exchange<br>>> > > > > CAL, and the MWI software it may not be that much more to just<br>>> purchase<br>>> > > > > Unity. I don't think Exchange 2007 can compare to Unity in the<br>
>> number or<br>>> > > > > features it has.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:11 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > > School district..... SLA ..... State contract pricing......<br>
>> Better<br>>> > > > > > pricing then Unity ;-)<br>>> > > > > ><br>>> > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 1:10 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>>><br>>> wrote:<br>>> > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > You have to purchase diffrent Exchange CAL's if you<br>
>> use the<br>>> UM<br>>> > > > > > > role so it is going to cost you more $$$ for the correct<br>>> Exchange CAL.<br>>> > > > > > ><br>
>> > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:52 PM, Voice Noob<br>>> <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > > What third party software are you using?<br>>> > > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > ><br>
>> > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:47 PM, Scott Voll<br>>> <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:<br>>> > > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > > > I have it in production at one of our School Districts<br>>> but<br>
>> > > > > > > > > with CM 5.1 not 6.x.<br>>> > > > > > > > > The MWI doesn't work by default but with a 3rd party<br>>> vendor<br>>> > > > > > > > > their is software you load on exchange to get that<br>
>> working.... But the<br>>> > > > > > > > > negitive is that you have to enable it on a per box<br>>> basis.<br>>> > > > > > > > ><br>
>> > > > > > > > > Scott<br>>> > > > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:29 AM, Madziarczyk, Jonathan <<br>
>> > > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> > > > > > > > ><br>>> > > > > > > > > > I'm about to start testing Exchange 2007's new SIP<br>>> > > > > > > > > > voicemail option in<br>
>> > > > > > > > > > conjunction with CCM6.0 in the hopes of that<br>>> becoming<br>>> my<br>>> > > > > > > > > > new VM system<br>
>> > > > > > > > > > (currently on CallXpress). Has anyone done this<br>>> yet,<br>>> or<br>>> > > > > > > > > > have any<br>>> > > > > > > > > > experience with this? I've heard there are some MWI<br>
>> > > > > > > > > > issues, but that<br>>> > > > > > > > > > there are 3rd party products to help with that end.<br>>> > > > > > > > > ><br>
>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks<br>>> > > > > > > > > > JM<br>>> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________<br>
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