<div>I have not used the Unity voice Portal.... Just know it's there. </div>
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<div>you maybe right about the design but it works. and when your talking about $$$ schools in Oregon are short so what ever works is what they do.</div>
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<div>As a SD in OR we buy the enterprise cals anyway so it was just a matter of turning on the UM services.</div>
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<div>What is this voice portal with Unity? ALso while you can run all of the services like you are doing for that size of a deployment it is not proper design. You can run Unity and exchange 2003 on the same box and make it part of your domain and have it be UM but it is not proper design. </div>
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<div>ALso did they already have the exchange enterprise cal? It is in addition to the standard exchange cal. </div>
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<div>Looking from VM only this is true. But when you look at UM</div>
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<div>Unity + voice portal + Exchange = 3 servers.</div>
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<div>They currently have 1 Exchange server doing Email, voice portal, and UM. if they have problems they can add a second server, but thus far have not had issues. Where as with Unity and the voice portal you can't even do it with a single server.and UM for that matter.</div>
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<div>Don't get me wrong... I think Unity is more functional but because they didn't put VM into the budget thinking there old VM was going to work, and they already had the Exchange server / Cals it was really a no brainer.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 8, 2008 3:21 PM, Corbett Enders <<a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com" target="_blank">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well, I'd guess that you need a box for Unity or a box for Exchange UM,<br>so that would be a wash.<br>
You'll need an Exchange license or a license for Unity... wash?<br>You'll need Exchange Enterprise CALs on top of the standard CAL (it is<br>an additive CAL now, you need both) or you get the CALs for Unity.<br>Wash?<br>
<br>So in the end, it boils down to functionality. And I have to think<br>Unity has more functionality from a pure VOICEMAIL system right now, but<br>it won't be long for Microsoft to catch up.<br><br>---------------<br>
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<div><br>If you have 800 - 1000 phone you shoul dhave multiple exchange servers<br>and<br>one dedicated to the UM role according to microsoft design guides. So<br>once<br>again if you add the price of the additional exchange server license and<br>
now<br>the additional x64 server hardware I bet you are not saving much money.<br><br>This does not take into account your specail state pricing.<br><br>On Feb 8, 2008 4:49 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>> well the School district loves Exchange for the voice portal vs the<br>press<br>> 1 for this that and the other thing. unless you have a second server<br>and<br>> unity 5.x which adds $$$ also. especially on a small SD size of<br>
800-1000<br>> phones. and the pricing between UM and VM licenses on Unity is huge.<br>><br>> Scott<br>><br>> PS> I use Unity 5.x UM personally ;-)<br>><br>> On Feb 8, 2008 1:33 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com" target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> > I completely agree with you. I also think that OCS will be a product<br>> > that is going to very good after a few years. The thing is I am<br>installing<br>> > these products today and must deploy the best solution for my<br>
customers and<br>> > a hacked together system that saves them 10% is not in my best<br>interest.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Feb 8, 2008 3:30 PM, Craig Staffin <<a href="mailto:craig@staffin.org" target="_blank">craig@staffin.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>> > > Voice Noob<br>> > ><br>> > > Keep in mind that exchange 07 unified messaging is version 1.<br>> > ><br>> > > Give it two years and see how much competition it can give to<br>
Unity.<br>> > > My guess the way its already going is Unity will be in trouble;<br>> > ><br>> > > Just my .02<br>> > > Craig<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:15 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com" target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>> > > > Not everyone has that. So once you purchase the correct exchange<br>> > > > CAL, and the MWI software it may not be that much more to just<br>purchase<br>> > > > Unity. I don't think Exchange 2007 can compare to Unity in the<br>
number or<br>> > > > features it has.<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:11 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>> > > > > School district..... SLA ..... State contract pricing......<br>Better<br>> > > > > pricing then Unity ;-)<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 1:10 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com" target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > > You have to purchase diffrent Exchange CAL's if you use the<br>
UM<br>> > > > > > role so it is going to cost you more $$$ for the correct<br>Exchange CAL.<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:52 PM, Voice Noob <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com" target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > What third party software are you using?<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 2:47 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > > > > > wrote:<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > I have it in production at one of our School Districts<br>but<br>> > > > > > > > with CM 5.1 not 6.x.<br>
> > > > > > > > The MWI doesn't work by default but with a 3rd party<br>vendor<br>> > > > > > > > their is software you load on exchange to get that<br>working.... But the<br>
> > > > > > > > negitive is that you have to enable it on a per box<br>basis.<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > Scott<br>> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:29 AM, Madziarczyk, Jonathan <<br>> > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:JMad@cityofevanston.org" target="_blank">JMad@cityofevanston.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > > I'm about to start testing Exchange 2007's new SIP<br>> > > > > > > > > voicemail option in<br>> > > > > > > > > conjunction with CCM6.0 in the hopes of that becoming<br>
my<br>> > > > > > > > > new VM system<br>> > > > > > > > > (currently on CallXpress). Has anyone done this yet,<br>or<br>> > > > > > > > > have any<br>
> > > > > > > > > experience with this? I've heard there are some MWI<br>> > > > > > > > > issues, but that<br>> > > > > > > > > there are 3rd party products to help with that end.<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > > Thanks<br>> > > > > > > > > JM<br>> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________<br>
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> > > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________<br>
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