I've found the Clarus product (<a href="http://www.clarussystems.com/">www.clarussystems.com</a>) to be pretty useful for tracking changes. They don't show who but the detail is really good without having to rely making sure every uses a provisioning tool to make all changes. <br>
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2. ip paging solutions, examples.... (Lelio Fulgenzi)<br> 3. Re: One of the worst CCM bugs! - CM 6.1 (Riley, Andrew)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:12:47 -0500<br>From: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Change Auditing in CallManager 6.x<br>To: "Christopher M. Bomba" <<a href="mailto:cbomba@s4nets.com">cbomba@s4nets.com</a>>,<br>
<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:00ac01c87b20$37438180$48196883@cfs.uoguelph.ca">00ac01c87b20$37438180$48196883@cfs.uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";<br> reply-type=original<br><br>This does not exist. Cisco folk will tell you that MLA does log the webpage<br>the user was on but it does not do before/after tracking, i.e. what the DN<br>
was before the change and after. Check out Arcana Networks ManageExpress<br>product. I never got around to looking at it but they were very eager to<br>please.<br><br><a href="http://www.arcananetworks.com/Products/MeVoIP.asp" target="_blank">http://www.arcananetworks.com/Products/MeVoIP.asp</a><br>
<br><br>Lelio<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." WJR<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Christopher M. Bomba" <<a href="mailto:cbomba@s4nets.com">cbomba@s4nets.com</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:56 PM<br>Subject: [cisco-voip] Change Auditing in CallManager 6.x<br><br><br>>I have been asked this many times and I always tell people that there<br>
>really<br>> isn't any auditing that can be done for users logging into the CallManager<br>> Admin page and making changes. Is that correct?<br>><br>> I know you can use Provisioning Manager to make changes and you have a<br>
> record of all of that. I have a customer that has CUPM and that is the<br>> way<br>> they keep track of changes.<br>><br>> I have checked the app syslog and only see users logging in and out.<br>><br>
> Thanks,<br>><br>> Chris<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>OK, so other than IPCelerate, Berbee, Syn-Apps, ANDTek ......any other out there?<br><br>Lelio<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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<br>Hi Wes,<br><br><br><br>I believe 6.1.2 is going to be the solution to this for 6.1<br>installations?<br><br><br><br>Do you know what this is going to be posted? I have heard in 2nd<br>quarter?<br><br><br><br>Andrew<br>
<br><br><br><br><br>From: Wes Sisk [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>]<br>Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2008 5:43 AM<br>To: Jonathan Charles<br>Cc: Erick Bergquist; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; Riley, Andrew<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] One of the worst CCM bugs! - CM 6.1<br><br><br><br>If informix used transaction replication dblhelper and synchronous<br>sequential replication would be an option.<br><br>Unfortunately informix does not. Thus 'is replication working' or 'is<br>
database 'in sync' become very complex questions.<br><br>These are not excuses, just the state of things. We are working on<br>them, but your feedback to the Cisco PM's is invaluable.<br><br>/Wes<br><br>Jonathan Charles wrote:<br>
<br>What seems really silly here is that if you had DBLHelper you could<br>just resync the SQL subscription and be good to go...<br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br>On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Erick Bergquist <<a href="mailto:erickbee@gmail.com">erickbee@gmail.com</a>><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:erickbee@gmail.com">erickbee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br> The bug id saids this effects 5.x also. How does one tell if<br>an<br> existing subscriber server is ok after publisher rebuild if<br>
they did<br> not know about this issue and things are working fine?<br><br><br><br> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Riley, Andrew<br> <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Riley@getronics.com">Andrew.Riley@getronics.com</a>><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:Andrew.Riley@getronics.com">Andrew.Riley@getronics.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Thanks to all for your feedback.<br> ><br>
><br> ><br> > Hopefully someone got a good talking to for missing that one<br>in QA testing<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > From: Wes Sisk [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 3:23 AM<br> > To: Lelio Fulgenzi<br> > Cc: Riley, Andrew; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> ><br> ><br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] One of the worst CCM bugs! - CM<br>6.1<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Actually, one point of clarification. It is not necessary to<br>
reinstall<br> > servers in same order as they were originally installed.<br> ><br> > /Wes<br> ><br> > Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> > ...and here I thought not being able to forward secondary<br>
lines was bad.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Lelio<br> ><br> ><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
--------<br> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,<br>Ontario N1G 2W1<br> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br> ><br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br> > "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo<br>buffalo." WJR<br> ><br> ><br> ><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br> ><br> ><br> > From: Wes Sisk<br> ><br> ><br> > To: Riley, Andrew<br> ><br> ><br> > Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
><br> ><br> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:58 AM<br> ><br> ><br> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] One of the worst CCM bugs! - CM 6.1<br> ><br> ><br>
><br> ><br> > There is currently no fix for this. Work is in progress to<br>address this<br> > issue. We too find it very painful.<br> ><br> > /Wes<br> ><br>
> Riley, Andrew wrote:<br> ><br> > This is a comment I received from Cisco regarding the<br>replacement of a<br> > publisher for CM 6.1<br> ><br> > "There is no way to reinstall or replace the publisher<br>
without reinstalling<br> > all the subscribers. Also if you are reinstalling publisher,<br>then the<br> > subscribers need to be reinstalled in the same order as they<br>were initially<br> > done so as to maintain proper functioning of the system. This<br>
is due to a<br> > bug which has not yet been resolved in CUCM 6.1.<br> ><br> ><br><a href="http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCsj90196" target="_blank">http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method<br>
=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCsj90196</a>"<br> ><br> ><br> > Change DRS process to not require sub rebuild/restore<br> ><br> ><br> > Symptom:<br> > CM5.x and 6.x disaster recovery currently requires<br>
subscriber reinstall.<br> > CM3.x and 4.x did not require subscriber reinstall after BARS<br>restore.<br> ><br> > Conditions:<br> > Perform DRS restore on CM cluster.<br> ><br>
><br> > Workaround:<br> > After DRS restore on publisher reinstall each subscriber in<br>the cluster.<br> ><br> > Further Information<br> > Reference CSCsh31645 for history.<br>
><br> > I have a customer with 5000 users and 8+ servers across 3<br>sites... a cluster<br> > rebuild won't go down very well!<br> ><br> > Does anyone know if there is a solution/ES available to get<br>
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