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The last time I tested the descriminator was the originating device
protocol:<br>
<br>
cm----(h323)----gw<br>
cm----(mgcp)----gw<br>
<br>
call direction -><br>
In this case CM can prompt originator for FAC/CMC depending on where
the call originates.<br>
<br>
Originating protocol and FAC/CMC support:<br>
SCCP: yes<br>
SIPline: yes<br>
MGCPline: yes<br>
h.323: no<br>
SIPTrunk: no<br>
MGCPTrunk: no<br>
<br>
The last time I tested CM wouldn't let you tandem calls from a trunk
perspective and use FAC/CMC.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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<pre wrap="">thanks for the feedback. it must be analog gateway restrictions then.
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<pre wrap="">I've been using FAC w/ an h.323 gateway for quite some time with out
issue.
Currently running UCM6.0.1 and ios 12.4.11.xw6 but had this working w/
CCM4.2.3
On 4/8/08 11:20 AM, "Jonathan Charles" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com"><jonvoip@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">That still doesn't make sense.
CCM is prompting for tones to enter FAC and CMC, not the gateway....
the CMC is just to tag the CDR record and the FAC is just to authorize
the call, inside CCM.
Jonathan
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I believe it all has to do with the 'playing of the tones' - it's the
gateway that sends a tone to the caller indicating that they must enter
an
FAC and/or a reorder alert telling them that the FAC is not valid.
Lelio
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<pre wrap="">I don't understand why a FAC or CMC wouldn't work with H.323, that
doesn't make sense... the CCM is just requesting this info prior to
routing the call... it is part of the route-pattern, what difference
does it make where the call goes?
Jonathan
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Now you know my conundrum. It's not very clear with respect to SIP
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<pre wrap="">trunks.
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<pre wrap="">The document states it requires MGCP and doesn't work on H323. That's
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<pre wrap="">it, no
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Lelio
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Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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I spoke to soon , Yes it is not supported on H.323 analog gateways
H.323 analog gateways do not support FAC or CMC because these gateways
cannot play tones
Aman
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<pre wrap="">I am not sure if FAC/CMC is not supported with H.323, I believe
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<pre wrap="">FAC/CMC > is
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<pre wrap="">a ccm function and should be gateway protocol independent. As these
are
prompted and enabled on ccm Route patterns.
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<pre wrap="">Maybe Wes or Ryan can confirm.
Aman
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Well, I'm sure you use the same route patterns with H323 and FXO > >
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<pre wrap="">ports
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<pre wrap="">but we already know that FACs are not supported on those.
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<pre wrap="">Any of the Cisco guys have any comments? I guess I could open a TAC
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<pre wrap="">case
for confirmation.
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SIP route patterns are used for domain routing/URL dialing , You can
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<pre wrap="">use
regular route patterns for digit dialing and as J said it should work
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<pre wrap="">with
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<pre wrap="">regular route patterns.
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Aman
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<pre wrap="">In the documentation, it has special instructions for SIP route
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<pre wrap="">the configuration options listed does not have FAC/CMC.
Is anyone out there using SIP trunks with the regular route > > >
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<pre wrap="">you have to use the SIP route patterns?
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<pre wrap="">I wouldn't see why not, just configure them on the route-patterns
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<pre wrap="">point the route-patterns to the trunks (RLs, RGs...)
Jonathan
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi > > > >
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I'm not sure if I posted this before, but can anyone confirm >
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not compatible with SIP trunks? We heavily use FACs for our
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<pre wrap="">will likely need to go forward with continuing to use them. We
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<pre wrap="">evaluate SIP trunks as a replacement to our PRI service but
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<pre wrap="">when > > > >> I
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a SIP route pattern in the CCM 6.1 admin guide there was no > >
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<pre wrap="">FAC/CMC
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Comments?
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